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01BIRDDOG 12-31-2012 06:32:54 50.147.88.242 Report to Moderator	First off i will admit i have seen the error of my ways in that of using a 8volt batt. and will get a new 6volf tomorrow. Having said that the battery will go down where it will not start the tractor-----sometimes in ten days, sometimes in like three days. I tried a motoring generator test and it will do this i have however never seen the amp hand move even the slightest amount toward the + side. Usually just hangs on "0" Direct me to a study guide of trouble shooting this or should i put batt. on and get a new regulator and see what this does ? This 8volt is only two months old and i can remember us using them like a million years ago with no problem. Thanks for any help in what to do next. [Reply]   [No Email]
russb wa 12-31-2012 15:51:04 67.185.6.72 Report to Moderator	Re: Another 8N battery going dead question in reply to 01BIRDDOG, 12-31-2012 06:32:54   Too many years ago I had a 50 Oldsmobile. Went to 8volt battery. The guy at the battery shop tweaked, (bent a tab to increase spring tension) as I recall. It worked really well for as long as I had the car. I think if you can take the cover off and get under the dash with a small wood stick and close/open some points you may have an ah ha moment. But then again you could cause some problems. If you take the cover off, try connecting and disconnecting the battery while watching the regulator. ... I think something is getting switched on by the 8 volts. Just might be a tweak to keep that from happening till say 9 volts, which would be when the gen is spinning up good. hth [Reply]  [No Email]
Bill Crowell 12-31-2012 08:54:08 216.57.77.67 Report to Moderator	Re: Another 8N battery going dead question in reply to 01BIRDDOG, 12-31-2012 06:32:54   I"ve got a "49 front mount, and it starts fine with 6 volts even though its compression is questionable. There are threads on this forum about how to trouble-shoot your problem. It"s almost certainly either the generator or the voltage regulator. I would suggest using a 6 volt battery. Have a electricity-savvy friend with a Volt-Ohm-Meter show you how to run those tests. Also have your friend show you how to measure voltage, but never current, in parallel with the power source. Measure current only in series with the power source or load. [Reply]  [No Email]
01BIRDDOG 12-31-2012 08:30:51 50.147.88.242 Report to Moderator	Re: Another 8N battery going dead question in reply to 01BIRDDOG, 12-31-2012 06:32:54   I do have test eqpt. and the VR specs. you gave me will let me do some checking. I have charged it all night at a 2 Amp charge and it is a two month old battery. I will double check all cables for size and good contact and report back. Will also check contacts in VR for proper condition. Thank you.Failed to mention it is 1952 side mount. This post was edited by 01BIRDDOG at 08:31:47 12/31/12. [Reply]  [No Email]
Ken-Pa 12-31-2012 07:10:56 75.179.40.150 Report to Moderator	Re: Another 8N battery going dead question in reply to 01BIRDDOG, 12-31-2012 06:32:54   I've been using 8V batteries in my Ford tractors for years with no failures & only (1) headlite burnout . Did you tweak your VR for that extra needed from the genny ? Also be sure all contact points of your heavy cables are clean , shiny & brite . I also smear some dielectric grease on all my cable ends to prevent any corrosion . An 8V charge system gives much brighter lighting & faster start-ups , so don't give up now . How old is the battery ? Maybe give it an over nite trickle charge will spruce it up . Plus during cold weather , it helps to trickle charge it once in awhile . HTH ! God bless, Ken [Reply]  [No Email]
Bruce (VA) 12-31-2012 07:13:13 24.125.80.178 Report to Moderator	Re: Another 8N battery going dead question in reply to Ken-Pa, 12-31-2012 07:10:56   " I've been using 8V batteries in my Ford tractors for years " How many of those tractors are N's w/ front distributors? N's w/ side distributors? Not all Ford tractor electrical systems are the same. 75 Tips [Reply]  [No Email]
Ken-Pa 12-31-2012 08:13:51 75.179.40.150 Report to Moderator	Re: Another 8N battery going dead question in reply to Bruce (VA), 12-31-2012 07:13:13   Bruce , I first had a 9n with an 8N front mount in it . Now I have a 640 & a 1952 8n Funk conversion with 6 cyl OHV engine . All of them I used 8V batteries in .God bless , Ken (only 1 tip so far) [Reply]  [No Email]
Bill Rowles 12-31-2012 07:04:11 76.2.232.2 Report to Moderator	Re: Another 8N battery going dead question in reply to 01BIRDDOG, 12-31-2012 06:32:54   If you don't have a hand-held volt/ohm meter and/or don't know how to evaluate the measurements for electrical trouble-shooting, find a friend or neighbor who does have this capability and ask for some help. The 8 volt battery is not the root cause of your problem, and until you identify the source of the battery charge loss, you will be throwing money and time in a bottomless pit. [Reply]  [No Email]
JMOR 12-31-2012 06:51:20 72.181.173.171 Report to Moderator	Re: Another 8N battery going dead question in reply to 01BIRDDOG, 12-31-2012 06:32:54   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to seeIt may work fine with the 6v battery. Specifications call for the VR to open the field contacts at 6.9 to 7.4 volts, so if that functioning to spec, then with an 8v battery, the VR would not call for generator output under normal conditions, but should when & if it ever discharged down to 6.9v. This assumes that someone hasn't been inside the VR & tried to tweak it up to 8+ volts. [Reply]  [No Email]