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JoseinNM 12-11-2012 11:48:05 66.87.100.77 Report to Moderator	My timing light shows 20 advanced degrees at all speeds idle to wide open. It starts great, runs strong, pulls any load I hook up, doesn't over heat, doesn't try to run on when I turn off, but as all can see, we have not any changing advance. Should I send $$$ to YT for parts or maybe distributor or just run her and be happy with $$$ that I save? What do you experts think? I mean experts, not just those who print big numbers of opinions. Everyone has opinion, but not all are experts. Thank you experts for helping us not experts. [Reply]   [No Email]
Hobo,NC 12-11-2012 19:12:24 75.89.255.106 Report to Moderator	Re: Angle distributor in reply to Bob Harvey, 12-11-2012 11:48:05   JoseinNM said: (quoted from post at 01:47:28 12/12/12) Look responses. That why I asked for experts. I only wanted to know if should do anything since operationally all is good. Maybe my bad. Maybe should said, will constant 20 hurt anything? No need to tell me stuck or inspect or won't start (I said it does) as those are clear to anyone. Happy idle too. Just simple yes or no from expert (one who really knows), can any damage be done at always 20 all the time? Am I clear enough this time? Manny thanks! Unless you are into working your tractor at idle all the time it will not HURT a thang were you are at.... If it will crank and idles good forget about the base timing as long as the total is nailed... it sounds like it izz.... Form one who really knows.... This post was edited by Hobo,NC at 19:16:23 12/11/12. [Reply]  [No Email]
JMOR 12-11-2012 20:28:32 72.181.173.171 Report to Moderator	Re: Angle distributor in reply to Hobo,NC, 12-11-2012 19:12:24   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to seeHOBO, you are the man on this one!! For sure. Too bad you didn't come along first. After all, unless a 'trailer queen", that is exactly where it is going to be running nearly 99% of the time. You did actually answer the man's question. [Reply]  [No Email]
Den N Ms 12-11-2012 18:09:04 74.177.23.179 Report to Moderator	Re: Angle distributor in reply to JoseinNM, 12-11-2012 11:48:05   Josein,Advanced all the time 20% may be hard on the starter bendix drive.I know that I wouldn't want to hand crank it advanced like that.Kick like an old mule! [Reply]  [No Email]
55deere70 12-11-2012 18:03:01 75.138.191.254 Report to Moderator	Re: Angle distributor in reply to JoseinNM, 12-11-2012 11:48:05   Bruce VA is the only one who got it right... [Reply]  [No Email]
Dell (WA) 12-11-2012 13:15:49 71.217.26.122 Report to Moderator	Re: Angle distributor in reply to JoseinNM, 12-11-2012 11:48:05   Jose........fer the 5-nipple sidemount 8N dizzy, it should be 4* at idle (400rpms) and auto-advance 16* for a total of 20* by 1200rpms. Sounds like yer UNDER the PLATE centrifugal advance is STUCK WIDE-OPEN. Time to remove the plate (held in by ring) and "operate" .......Dell [Reply]  [No Email]
Mimos 12-13-2012 04:42:27 24.59.99.190 Report to Moderator	Re: Angle distributor in reply to Dell (WA), 12-11-2012 13:15:49   Once again what is a Dizzy ? [Reply]  [No Email]
W_B 12-13-2012 05:13:58 155.188.247.18 Report to Moderator	Re: Angle distributor in reply to Mimos, 12-13-2012 04:42:27   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see Dell's weird name for a distributor. [Reply]  [No Email]
JoseinNM 12-11-2012 13:47:28 66.87.100.77 Report to Moderator	Re: Angle distributor in reply to Dell (WA), 12-11-2012 13:15:49   Look responses. That why I asked for experts. I only wanted to know if should do anything since operationally all is good. Maybe my bad. Maybe should said, will constant 20 hurt anything? No need to tell me stuck or inspect or won't start (I said it does) as those are clear to anyone. Happy idle too. Just simple yes or no from expert (one who really knows), can any damage be done at always 20 all the time? Am I clear enough this time? Manny thanks! [Reply]  [No Email]
soundguy 12-12-2012 05:45:38 184.246.205.64 Report to Moderator	Re: Angle distributor in reply to JoseinNM, 12-11-2012 13:47:28   yeah.. deffintely rude.. I agree with the other poster. i know you want a yes no answer.. but .. if it really is advanced all the time.. I would expect harder to start conditions.. and at least a dragging starter eventually. It takes mere moments to visually inspect a mechanical advance. if you are afraisd to do that.. or don't know how.. just ask. Simple inspection / observation won't 'hurt' anyting, even if you chose to leave it that way. Some are telling you that you will use the tractor at full throttle all the time. that may be true. it's not anywaher near true for me except when mowing. the other 50% of the work i do on a tractor is not at max throttle.. your call. [Reply]  [No Email]
carlntexas 12-11-2012 16:45:24 69.46.56.208 Report to Moderator	Re: Angle distributor in reply to JoseinNM, 12-11-2012 13:47:28   Jose don't think your going about this the right way kind of rude and crude. [Reply]  [No Email]
old 12-11-2012 14:59:52 209.86.226.32 Report to Moderator	Re: Angle distributor in reply to JoseinNM, 12-11-2012 13:47:28   Will it hurt well just figure it this way would you want to run your car that way?? As in over the long run it may in fact cause burned valves by the timing being off but that could take many many hour of operation. Your call as it could be as simple as some one using a points hold down bolt that is way to long and that can mess up timing. But as others have said the way your coming at this only serves to make it so people will not want to help you help your self. You get more flys with honey then you do with vinegar [Reply]  [No Email]
JoseinNM 12-11-2012 16:52:08 66.87.100.77 Report to Moderator	Re: Angle distributor in reply to old, 12-11-2012 14:59:52   OK, sweetie, I will take that as a maybe. I was told I could get good answers here. U r the only one that tried. Manny thanks, Love & kisses to all [Reply]  [No Email]
Bob Harvey 12-11-2012 18:06:47 209.121.225.130 Report to Moderator	Re: Angle distributor in reply to JoseinNM, 12-11-2012 16:52:08   Put the microphone down. Take the bees out of your 'Hive' and as I said just the other day, "G. F. Y." Hope this helps. BOB. If you can spell it backwards, you win a hand painted salami. Still B. [Reply]  [No Email]
old 12-11-2012 17:43:29 209.86.226.34 Report to Moderator	Re: Angle distributor in reply to JoseinNM, 12-11-2012 16:52:08   Many many people here will help you and Dell did tell you how to check things out. I did tell you what may happen but then it may not happen. Either way it would be a good idea to do as Dell said and make sure what is wrong and also if you do not have it get an I-T FO-4 manual so you have info in hand [Reply]  [No Email]
Bob Harvey 12-11-2012 14:20:02 209.121.225.222 Report to Moderator	Re: Angle distributor in reply to JoseinNM, 12-11-2012 13:47:28   Yes & No. [Reply]  [No Email]
Bruce (VA) 12-11-2012 14:16:10 24.125.80.178 Report to Moderator	Re: Angle distributor in reply to JoseinNM, 12-11-2012 13:47:28   " Am I clear enough this time?" Yes, I think you are very clear. Clear enough that you will probably not get another response from anyone here. [Reply]  [No Email]
soundguy 12-12-2012 05:46:19 184.246.205.64 Report to Moderator	Re: Angle distributor in reply to Bruce (VA), 12-11-2012 14:16:10   yeah.. quite rude. I've written the name and ip down in my blacklist.. :) [Reply]  [No Email]
Bill Rowles 12-11-2012 12:51:18 76.2.232.2 Report to Moderator	Re: Angle distributor in reply to JoseinNM, 12-11-2012 11:48:05   I thought my NAA was running fine last year, but decided to put new points in it because they were a little burned. While working on the distributor I checked the mechanical advance under the points and found the parts rusty and stuck....it was not advancing. After cleaning and lubricating and installation of new points, I was surprised to find how much smoother the engine runs and the power under heavy loads seems better too. Just a thought for your consideration [Reply]  [No Email]
Dean 12-11-2012 12:38:35 152.216.3.5 Report to Moderator	Re: Angle distributor in reply to JoseinNM, 12-11-2012 11:48:05   Most likely the advance mechanism is stuck or damaged. Not uncommon. What is "idle" RPM? Dean [Reply]  [No Email]
R Geiger 12-11-2012 12:22:00 50.39.151.117 Report to Moderator	Re: Angle distributor in reply to Chuck (CA), 12-11-2012 11:48:05   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see I am far from an expert, but something is wrong. I don't think that it would start that far advanced. Why did you check it? have you tried changing the timing? If it runs good I would leave it as is and sell the timing light. [Reply]  [No Email]
soundguy 12-11-2012 12:29:27 173.105.146.15 Report to Moderator	Re: Angle distributor in reply to R Geiger, 12-11-2012 12:22:00   that's what I'm wondering, if the advance is freely moving and working, anbd perhaps theres an issue with the lamp, or reading the lamp.. if it really is starting good, running fine at all rpm ranges and taking up load..e tc.. [Reply]  [No Email]
soundguy 12-11-2012 12:21:18 173.105.146.15 Report to Moderator	Re: Angle distributor in reply to JoseinNM, 12-11-2012 11:48:05   have you inspected the advance mechanism? [Reply]  [No Email]
Agman WallisTX 12-11-2012 12:03:10 209.44.143.193 Report to Moderator	Re: Angle distributor in reply to JoseinNM, 12-11-2012 11:48:05   If it is not broke do not fix it. If it is working doing what you want it to just keep running it. [Reply]  [No Email]