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Topic: Re: 53 Jubilee loses spark. Need troubleshooting help
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| soundguy
11-10-2012 14:41:47
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you answered your own question already.poiints open or closed.. 6v. means points are not making contact when closed. when points closed.. they are grounded check your ignition switch to make sure it is not staying on letting your battery die thru the points at shutdown. ps.. clean and regap the points |
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| William Fissell
11-10-2012 15:28:04
76.18.178.56
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Re: 53 Jubilee loses spark. Need troubleshooting help in reply to soundguy, 11-10-2012 14:41:47
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| | @Soundguy yeah, maybe I wasn;t clear. batt side: 6V no matter what dist side: 6V open, 4.5V closed @ points: 6V open, 0V closed. Points are clearly closing and grounding sorry if I wasn;t clear. Bill |
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| Dell (WA)
11-10-2012 16:24:39
97.113.105.165
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Re: 53 Jubilee loses spark. Need troubleshooting help in reply to William Fissell, 11-10-2012 15:28:04
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| | Fizzy........you write........"dist side: 6V open, 4.5V closed"........yer points when closed are GROUND and you should read ZERO volts. Your points are BURNED and are resistive, therefore you read about 4.5-volts with the points closed. Ittza LAW, Kerchoff's Law. Do I haffta tell you to replace yer BURNED points??? Remember to POLISH the INVISIBLE corrosion from between the new points. Me? I use a clean $1-bill clamped between the closed points and pull. Iff'n yer really cheap, tear a strip from HEAVY brown paper grocery sack and use that. ........Dell, yer self-appointed sparkie-meister |
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| William Fissell
11-10-2012 17:54:26
76.18.178.56
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Re: 53 Jubilee loses spark. Need troubleshooting help in reply to Dell (WA), 11-10-2012 16:24:39
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| | @Dell - thank you! That's what I was thinking.... except... when I put the voltmeter on the 'hot' point, its 6 (open) or zero (closed) so at the points.. they are grounding and not generating a voltage across the closed points. ... so I was trying to decide how 4.5V was getting dissipated in that little length of wire from coil to points. Kirchoff's voltage law: the sum of all potential drops around a closed circuit must sum to zero Kirchoff's current law: the sum of all currents leaving a given node must sum to zero. Sounder: yeah, I couldn;t figger out why I ddn;t have spark either.. "you should have spark" ... I thought so too. What would a bad condenser act like? either a short to ground (no) or... thanks! Bill |
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| soundguy
11-10-2012 18:27:26
173.107.64.138
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Re: 53 Jubilee loses spark. Need troubleshooting help in reply to William Fissell, 11-10-2012 17:54:26
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| | if the condensor was shorted.. it would act like closed points. if condensor was open.. it would let points arc and burn pretty quick. you get some that self heal a bit then die out in a few minutes with warmth..e tc. but it's more rare. run a hot wire to the coil. clean points and regap. use that known good coil. see what you get with just the coil.. forget the dizzy cap.. |
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| William Fissell
11-10-2012 18:59:18
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Re: 53 Jubilee loses spark. Need troubleshooting help in reply to soundguy, 11-10-2012 18:27:26
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| | OK, will try again. feel like I did all that - new coil, wire from coil to spark plug, regapped the points and dressed 'em wiht a card... still nada. I am puzzled that it's 4.5V on the dizzy side of the coil and 0V on the points... how could a 6" piece of copper drop 4.5V - it can't!
So, where is the likely resistance "point" - at the dizzy feedthu? thx! |
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| soundguy
11-12-2012 06:02:23
107.41.73.143
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Re: 53 Jubilee loses spark. Need troubleshooting help in reply to William Fissell, 11-10-2012 18:59:18
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| chances are if it's dropping that.. it's a very bad connection somewhere else.. that's why i mentioned using a hot wire as a jumper to the coil. if it still drops 1.5v on other side of coil before dizzy.. that leaves you but one place to look.. at the feedthru.. and wy less likely.. the condensor. |
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| soundguy
11-10-2012 15:58:24
173.107.64.138
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Re: 53 Jubilee loses spark. Need troubleshooting help in reply to William Fissell, 11-10-2012 15:28:04
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| | then you should have spark. use a jump wire from bat hot to coil.. and set here and pop points manuall using a piece of wood... |
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