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Ford 9N, 2N & 8N Discussion Forum
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JoePilot

10-20-2012 12:53:43
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"51 8N, 6V, side mount dizzy.

So I read a post recently about how, if your hydraulic position control won"t stay put, and tightening the nut doesn"t help, you can replace the cork friction disk to fix it. Since this problem has plagued me for some time, I (almost) immediately ordered up a new friction disk (C5NN518B). However, I went to install it, and couldn"t get the handle hub thingy to come off. Kinda looks like it needs a puller of some type. Is this the case, or is there another way?

If I need a puller, please advise the specs for this tool.

Thanks!

Joe

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JoePilot

10-20-2012 23:08:27
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Re: Position Quadrant Friction Disk in reply to JoePilot, 10-20-2012 12:53:43  
Thanks for all the great advice. Sounds like it's one of those things that's just kinda hard. I'll worry it a bit and see what happens. Why would they make it alumininum???

Joe

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Dean

10-21-2012 12:36:14
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Re: Position Quadrant Friction Disk in reply to JoePilot, 10-20-2012 23:08:27  
Cheaper to die cast in the volumes that Ford produced.

Dean

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soundguy

10-20-2012 15:32:52
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Re: Position Quadrant Friction Disk in reply to JoePilot, 10-20-2012 12:53:43  
if you read the n news..i think i did a how to a few years back.

in any case.. pb oil.. a lil head.. and 2 screwdrivers to pry with.. lots of patience.. and 2 hammers to tap on the hub onthe shaft.

all else fails.. split it with a hacksaw and buy a new hub.

put neverseize on t he shaft!

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Mr. T. Minnesota

10-20-2012 15:23:24
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Re: Position Quadrant Friction Disk in reply to JoePilot, 10-20-2012 12:53:43  
JP,
Had the exact same problem a couple of weeks ago. Removal of the outer portion of the handle seemed impossible. Fearing breakage of the outer metal disk I removed the remaining cork disk.Found nylon cord that was about the same thickness as space between the metal disks and tightly wound the cord into the space. It has worked so far. If it loosens again I will rewind the cord. Hope this helps!
Mr. T. Minnesota

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Dean

10-20-2012 13:50:23
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Re: Position Quadrant Friction Disk in reply to JoePilot, 10-20-2012 12:53:43  
The hub to which the touch control handle bolts is aluminum. Almost certainly the use of a puller will break it.

Penetrating oil, moderate pressure, moderate heat, e.g., propane torch, and plenty of patience may remove it.

If not, cast iron aftermarket hubs are readily available.

Dean

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36 coupe

10-20-2012 15:41:03
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Re: Position Quadrant Friction Disk in reply to Dean, 10-20-2012 13:50:23  
I have used a puller with out breaking it.Thin wooden wedges driven in close to the shaft works.Jacobs chucks are removed from taper shafts with 2 wedges.Apply a good penetration oil and leave it for a few days.Aluminum melts at 1000 degrees so no heat.Kerosene works as well as most penetrating oil.Now when you put the hub back on put some grease on the tapered shaft.It has a key in it.Grease stops the corrosion between metal to metal.The cross shaft can freeze up in cold weather.Get rough and break the casting.A hair dryer or heat gun will free it up.Now you know I know about quadrant levers.

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Dean

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Re: Position Quadrant Friction Disk in reply to 36 coupe, 10-20-2012 15:41:03  
Bingo.

Wedges sometimes work.

Pullers rarely do.

Dean

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JMOR

10-20-2012 13:09:58
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Re: Position Quadrant Friction Disk in reply to heybusdriver, 10-20-2012 12:53:43  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to seeSorry to bring an ill wind, but you should have ordered the metal disk, too, as they usually corrode to shaft & much heat turns the potmetal/aluminum? into a glob on the floor. Maybe with luck, soaking with ATF/acetone, PB Blaster, etc. and moderate heat, but not real promising.

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Jason S.

10-20-2012 17:53:43
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Re: Position Quadrant Friction Disk in reply to JMOR, 10-20-2012 13:09:58  
I have heard of people slitting the cork disk and putting a little
adhesive on the back and sliding it in if they couldn't get it
apart without breaking it.

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