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Royse 09-03-2012 12:20:46 69.36.49.151 Report to Moderator	8N side mount. I don't know of a way to measure the depth of the scratches. You can obviously feel them. Is it worth trying to hone them out or am I looking at a new one? Plan is to use the newer o-ring style piston. [Reply]   [No Email]
KEN IND 09-05-2012 22:57:05 199.189.61.37 Report to Moderator	Re: Honing a lift cylinder in reply to Royse, 09-03-2012 12:20:46   Clean it up with a hone and use the piston and rubber o ring and back up out of the naa it will work for a long time this way. I used to work in a Ford/New Holland dealership and this is the way we fixed them all time and never had a problem. [Reply]  [No Email]
soundguy 09-04-2012 08:06:30 173.104.189.94 Report to Moderator	Re: Honing a lift cylinder in reply to Royse, 09-03-2012 12:20:46   hone that baby.. slap it on the but and go! [Reply]  [No Email]
Royse 09-04-2012 04:24:42 69.36.49.151 Report to Moderator	Re: Honing a lift cylinder in reply to Ultradog MN, 09-03-2012 12:20:46   Piston has some scratches in it too, not as bad as the cylinder was. It was clean, and all three rings were free when I took it out of the cylinder bore. I don't have any pictures of it right now, but to me it didn't look that bad. [Reply]  [No Email]
DollarBill 09-04-2012 04:20:01 98.70.210.120 Report to Moderator	Re: Honing a lift cylinder in reply to Royse, 09-03-2012 12:20:46   What is the condition of the piston? Is loose in the bore? It can be in pretty bad shape and still work - Remember you're trying to hold back 90 wt gear oil. [Reply]  [No Email]
Royse 09-04-2012 04:16:51 69.36.49.151 Report to Moderator	Re: Honing a lift cylinder in reply to Royse, 09-03-2012 12:20:46   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see I don't know. I bought the tractor with the lift cover already removed and all but the rock shaft/lift arms disassembled. [Reply]  [No Email]
DollarBill 09-04-2012 03:56:25 98.70.210.120 Report to Moderator	Re: Honing a lift cylinder in reply to Royse, 09-03-2012 12:20:46   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see It should be just fine. How bad did it leak down? [Reply]  [No Email]
Royse 09-03-2012 20:10:42 69.36.49.151 Report to Moderator	Re: Honing a lift cylinder in reply to Royse, 09-03-2012 12:20:46   Thanks guys. I have no particular attachment to this cylinder, but I do to $$ for a replacement! I have to buy parts anyway. I have the o-ring and backer for the newer style piston, came in the lift cover kit, but I don't have that piston. I have the old style piston that came out, but would need new rings. Any harm in buying the new rings and using the old piston? I'm not worried about it holding up over night, I don't leave anything lifted for more than a short drive. It will get random use for now, grading, gardening, post holes, etc and hopefully a hobby farm in my next life. LOL [Reply]  [No Email]
Notjustair 09-03-2012 19:44:02 174.255.13.237 Report to Moderator	Re: Honing a lift cylinder in reply to Royse, 09-03-2012 12:20:46   Yup, mine was worse, too. Part of the skirt had come off and scratched her. Honed out what I could and used it. It will hold for several hours but not overnight. When I did mine Zane recommended using the original if at all possible as the new ones aren't quite right. Glad I listened. [Reply]  [No Email]
DollarBill 09-03-2012 16:17:54 98.70.210.120 Report to Moderator	Re: Honing a lift cylinder in reply to Royse, 09-03-2012 12:20:46   Steel is more durable than rubber - The rings will hold for another 20-30 years depending on how much use it gets. Don't expect it to hold up a disk overnight though. The O-ring will provide a more positive seal but will require a relatively smooth surface which means a new cylinder. You'd be penny wise and pound foolish to put O-rings in the original cylinder. [Reply]  [No Email]
Royse 09-03-2012 14:43:10 69.36.49.151 Report to Moderator	Re: Honing a lift cylinder in reply to Royse, 09-03-2012 12:20:46   I cleaned it up a bit with a hone and took a couple more pictures. The scratches are all on the bottom of the cylinder(as mounted), but go all the way to the rear of travel. I was wondering about the tolerance on the rings as well. [Reply]  [No Email]
DollarBill 09-03-2012 14:01:33 98.70.210.120 Report to Moderator	Re: Honing a lift cylinder in reply to Royse, 09-03-2012 12:20:46   The O-ring set up will need a pristine surface in order to seal properly. By the time you remove those grooves, I'm afraid you'll be over sized. If you can catch a fingernail in the scratches, the O-ring will fail prematurely. If you're really fond of that cylinder, you'll probably be happier with the steel rings which won't be affected by small striations in the cylinder wall. JMHO [Reply]  [No Email]
Dean 09-03-2012 12:55:42 67.172.15.77 Report to Moderator	Re: Honing a lift cylinder in reply to Royse, 09-03-2012 12:20:46   That's not bad at all. Hone it a bit and it will be fine, and MUCH better than an aftermarket, almost right replacement. Dean [Reply]  [No Email]
old 09-03-2012 12:53:18 209.86.226.60 Report to Moderator	Re: Honing a lift cylinder in reply to Royse, 09-03-2012 12:20:46   It will not hurt a thing to hone it out and smooth it up. Be sure you clean it out real well after doing so because honing it will leave behind a small bit if iron dust [Reply]  [No Email]
Billie R. Smith 09-03-2012 12:24:47 69.245.108.151 Report to Moderator	Re: Honing a lift cylinder in reply to Royse, 09-03-2012 12:20:46   Mine looked worse than that and all I used was a bottle brush wrapped with steel wool and stuck in a drill motor. [Reply]  [No Email]