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1988 08-30-2012 13:28:53 68.254.250.99 Report to Moderator	I am hoping you can help my dad out - my information is based on what he has given me. The Pto initally did not stay engaged so for a breif period he does the bungee cord thing. Works OK. he was using it and the pto just stopped turning and no hydraulics. takes the PTO out( notices while taking it out that when he turns it 3 point lifts). Inspects the shaft - looks good. Notices snap ring is gone puts one on and reinstalls. Takes it out and mower works good for 2 rounds and then PTO stops/ not hydraulics. Can you get us headed in the right direction? I really appreciate any and all help. [Reply]   [No Email]
howdy1960 08-30-2012 21:16:38 173.191.206.106 Report to Moderator	Re: 8N PTO disengages in reply to 1988, 08-30-2012 13:28:53   A manual is a wonder thing to study [Reply]  [No Email]
soundguy 08-30-2012 14:17:10 107.41.52.190 Report to Moderator	Re: 8N PTO disengages in reply to 1988, 08-30-2012 13:28:53   113$ for the assy.. I'd get this.: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PTO Shaft Conversion Assembly - Shaft assembly with cap converts 1-18 inch PTO system to 1-38 inch. Assembled and ready to install by removing 4 bolts from cover. Length 30-78 inches. (Part No: 9N700-38 8n pto parts here at ytmag [Reply]  [No Email]
Jim in Eastern North Caro 08-31-2012 05:16:53 74.196.82.215 Report to Moderator	Re: 8N PTO disengages in reply to soundguy, 08-30-2012 14:17:10   Does this part include the new/improved grease seal? [Reply]  [No Email]
soundguy 08-31-2012 10:11:30 184.4.146.28 Report to Moderator	Re: 8N PTO disengages in reply to Jim in Eastern North Caro, 08-31-2012 05:16:53   if you would read the description you would see it is the entire pto assembly.. shaft, bearing carrier, bearing, wear ring and seal. already assembled.. just slide in with supplied gasket.. [Reply]  [No Email]
Jim in Eastern North Caro 08-31-2012 11:23:28 74.196.82.215 Report to Moderator	Re: 8N PTO disengages in reply to soundguy, 08-31-2012 10:11:30   I had read it, but I have also read in prior discussions that there was an older type seal that occasionally caused problems, but there was a newer version that was much improved..., just wondering if anyone knew which one was on this assembly. Thanks, Jim [Reply]  [No Email]
soundguy 08-31-2012 14:40:44 184.246.147.105 Report to Moderator	Re: 8N PTO disengages in reply to Jim in Eastern North Caro, 08-31-2012 11:23:28   the only seal that has been available for some time is what is installed. PS.. the older seal worked fine.. 99% of seal problems I see are operator error of instalation. soundguy [Reply]  [No Email]
soundguy 08-30-2012 14:11:48 107.41.52.190 Report to Moderator	Re: 8N PTO disengages in reply to 1988, 08-30-2012 13:28:53   as you may have guessed , and would know if there was a manual, the pto runs the hyds in that tractor. when the pto was disengaging it was experience thrust play and walking out of engagement.. due to a damaged bearing and/or that snap ring..possibly even a damaged bearing carrier. if a correct snap ring was put in, and it still pops out.. then the bearing carrier is damaged. get a new shaft assembly and be ahead of the curve with a new bearing and seal all in one assembly.. vs buying a new bearing carrier, AND seal, AND bearing, AND wear ring and reusing your old shaft.. which may have a mushroomed inner end and chewed spline by now anyway. hopefully the sliding coupler has not been dammaged.. too much. new pto shaft asy is less than 120$ i believe.. and is available from the parts site here.. ps.. they sell MANUALS here too... [Reply]  [No Email]
Polish Mike 08-31-2012 05:55:27 158.57.150.68 Report to Moderator	Re: 8N PTO disengages in reply to soundguy, 08-30-2012 14:11:48   Soundguy sez : "when the pto was disengaging it was experience thrust play and walking out of engagement.. due to a damaged bearing and/or that snap ring..possibly even a damaged bearing carrier." So pretty much that's the only thing that would be causing disengagement ? I have the same thing happening on my 850 and my NAA... Buy the correct assemblies for both of 'em and my problems are over ? [Reply]  [No Email]
soundguy 08-31-2012 10:15:29 184.4.146.28 Report to Moderator	Re: 8N PTO disengages in reply to Polish Mike, 08-31-2012 05:55:27   ps.. if the shifter mechanism is damaged and the fork is not pushing the sliding collar into full engagement, and / or the detent is bad, it could also cause some probs.. as well as if the sliding coupler is damaged.. or the splines on the end of the pto shaft are damaged. many times the splines can twist.. or the inner end will mushroom from thrust play constantly beating it back and forth. again.. pull and inspect.. then remedy. [Reply]  [No Email]
Polish Mike 08-31-2012 10:49:09 158.57.150.68 Report to Moderator	Re: 8N PTO disengages in reply to soundguy, 08-31-2012 10:15:29   Thanks ! [Reply]  [No Email]
soundguy 08-31-2012 10:13:50 184.4.146.28 Report to Moderator	Re: 8N PTO disengages in reply to Polish Mike, 08-31-2012 05:55:27   if the bearings are worn, it will allow play. if the snap rings are damaged or popepd out, it will allow play. if the bearing carrier is damages so that the snap rings cannot seat or stay seated.. it will allow play. remove the assy's and inspect, repair or replace ( parts or assy ), as needed. remember on a 53+ that the shaft goes thru a seal seperating hyds and diffy, so it is necescary to drain the hyds and diffy sumps prior to pulling the shafts.. and when you reinstall.. be carefull to not damage the seal as you stab the pto shaft back thru. [Reply]  [No Email]