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starting out 08-06-2012 04:51:04 75.69.225.150 Report to Moderator	I have a 1946 2n w/wagner loader. will widening front tires help carry load? Will it help steering under load? should i put bolts in all holes in front end for xtra strenth while running loader? Thanks for all input Mike [Reply]   [No Email]
NoNewParts 08-06-2012 11:09:56 67.240.145.25 Report to Moderator	Re: front end in reply to starting out, 08-06-2012 04:51:04   wider, flatter profile, front tires will help widening the front end will actually put more strain on components bolts in all available holes is a good idea on all tractors. A VERY heavy counterweight will help your steering [Reply]  [No Email]
old 08-06-2012 08:38:27 209.86.226.59 Report to Moderator	Re: front end in reply to starting out, 08-06-2012 04:51:04   If you have the 19 inch narrow tires and rims I would switch to the 16 inch ones because they will not cut in as bad and can in fact make it easier to steer. Did that on more then one of my loader tractors as for wider tires but on the 2N going to wide hurts more then helps other then the 19s which are known to cut ruts and have a loader on them does not help at all but going to the 16 inch type and a tad bit wider will help [Reply]  [No Email]
soundguy 08-06-2012 06:41:38 184.233.58.22 Report to Moderator	Re: front end in reply to starting out, 08-06-2012 04:51:04   i agree.. widening will make it harder to steer and not effect load beairng in any way. no need for the extra bolts.. though won't hurt.. [Reply]  [No Email]
old 08-06-2012 08:40:17 209.86.226.59 Report to Moderator	Re: front end in reply to soundguy, 08-06-2012 06:41:38   Sounds I do not agree with you but again he did not tell us all. If he still has the old 19 inch tires and rims going to the 16 inch tires and rim will help him steer and hold the load up instead of cutting ruts which the 19s are known to do [Reply]  [No Email]
soundguy 08-06-2012 11:14:14 173.103.60.98 Report to Moderator	Re: front end in reply to old, 08-06-2012 08:40:17   i read his question as widening the front axle stance. in which case. a wider front axle stance will make for more difficult steering. narrow tires will steer easier than wider tires.. but will bit in and not support hte weight. i'm not sure what part of my message you are disagreeing with. [Reply]  [No Email]
old 08-06-2012 11:41:06 209.86.226.19 Report to Moderator	Re: front end in reply to soundguy, 08-06-2012 11:14:14   Just that wider tires for a loader are better then narrower tires is all I was trying to say [Reply]  [No Email]
soundguy 08-06-2012 11:59:03 173.103.60.98 Report to Moderator	Re: front end in reply to old, 08-06-2012 11:41:06   wider tires support the load better.. but steer harder.. so it's a trade off for sure. int he end you have to have the support.. so steering difficulty will be the result. As far as I can tell, you didn't actually disagree with anything I said ??????? [Reply]  [No Email]
old 08-06-2012 15:06:56 209.86.226.30 Report to Moderator	Re: front end in reply to soundguy, 08-06-2012 11:59:03   Ya not sure if I did or did not guess it is sort of a your say I say thing and we agree and disagree at the same time sort of [Reply]  [No Email]
ericlb 08-06-2012 04:56:14 12.189.32.54 Report to Moderator	Re: front end in reply to starting out, 08-06-2012 04:51:04   no, and no, the front end is designed to carry just so much weight and no more, its weak point is the spindles, which will not change no mater where you set the front axle spacing, not the beams, the reason the front end [ and the rear end] are adjustable is to configure the tractor width for different crop row spacing, a N series tractor which has a loader will be a bear to steer under the best of conditions, remember originally the loader for the N was designed to pick up manure, which is considerably lighter than dirt, [Reply]  [No Email]