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dave bjornson 11-07-2009 09:46:48 209.105.159.220 740129 Report to Moderator	I have a 48 ford 8N that takes an average of 15-20 seconds of cranking on a cold start. Just curious if this is normal as this is my first Ford tractor. I"m a little worried about the battery this winter for those cold plowing sessions.. [Reply]   [Send Email]
gahorN 11-07-2009 22:10:53 64.237.123.140 740257 Report to Moderator	Re: Poll: Average cranking time on cold start? in reply to lha, 11-07-2009 09:46:48   Mine would start at just-a-hint of the starter...virtually one revolution...for about 3 years. Then it got a little fussy and wanted choke and 5-8 revolutions. Then it got to requiring two to three attempts of about 5 seconds each. Then I discovered my square-can, front-mount coil was not making full contact between that coil-spring and the tab. I stretched the spring and bent the tab so they'd make contact again...and VOILA! It starts again with just a "hint" of beginning to turn over. I haven't cleaned my spark plugs in 7 years, and I haven't done any tuneup work, or points, etc. (other than that tab-bending thing) either. (And that's why it puzzles me when I hear others troubles with ignition, starting, and electronic-ignition troubles, etc etc. My ol' 9N just always fires right up and goes to work. It WAS converted to 12 volts about 7 years ago, tho'.)   [Reply]   [No Email]
Dennis D Conner 11-07-2009 18:56:12 68.46.213.196 740231 Report to Moderator	Re: Poll: Average cranking time on cold start? in reply to dave bjornson, 11-07-2009 09:46:48   '44 2N Front Mount 12V conversion starts on the 2nd or 3rd revolution with a bit of choke each and every time in the winter months. Mine needs a slight choke at any temperature, but starts great. I use about 1/3-1/2 throttle.   [Reply]   [No Email]
Lumpy 11-07-2009 17:16:08 208.126.148.234 740212 Report to Moderator	Re: Poll: Average cranking time on cold start? in reply to dave bjornson, 11-07-2009 09:46:48   My '47 2n fires on the 3rd rev, 1/4 throttle, no choke. But have your hand on the choke, 'cause it needs a little choke to keep'er runn'in!   [Reply]   [No Email]
35thLE 11-07-2009 16:25:51 72.42.69.152 740207 Report to Moderator	Re: Poll: Average cranking time on cold start? in reply to Bruce (VA), 11-07-2009 09:46:48   Mine starts before I can even reach the choke.... Ifin it's really cold might get to the choke..... and if it don't on the first rev or 2 ... sumthin's up...   [Reply]   [No Email]
dave bjornson 11-07-2009 15:49:04 71.240.123.35 740202 Report to Moderator	Re: Poll: Average cranking time on cold start? in reply to dave bjornson, 11-07-2009 09:46:48   I knew the answer...... It's a 12 volt conversion, and I get great blue spark. Seems like a carb thing. Runs best when the idle jet is damn near all the way clockwise.   [Reply]   [No Email]
Jerry Kirkpatrick 11-07-2009 12:23:49 72.155.200.243 740160 Report to Moderator	Re: Poll: Average cranking time on cold start? in reply to mrpatjr, 11-07-2009 09:46:48   Bruce (VA) said: (quoted from post at 15:11:59 11/07/09) It's starts easier w/ the starter because of more compression, not current. As a matter of fact, you will have all the battery current going to the ignition system when you use a hand crank. 50 Tips Interesting thought, Bruce...BTW, my 51 sidemount 6v starts "cold" before the count of 2 (one thousand one, one thousand two) without the choke in current weather (50-70 deg)...   [Reply]   [No Email]
lha 11-07-2009 12:07:52 24.176.97.9 740155 Report to Moderator	Re: Poll: Average cranking time on cold start? in reply to dave bjornson, 11-07-2009 09:46:48   Mine usually starts on 1st or2nd rev ,I still have handcrank,and use it every once in a while,just for the heck of it.Starts easier than with starter,maybe because of more juice.---lha   [Reply]   [Send Email]
Bruce (VA) 11-07-2009 12:11:59 24.125.26.10 740156 Report to Moderator	Re: Poll: Average cranking time on cold start? in reply to lha, 11-07-2009 12:07:52   It's starts easier w/ the starter because of more compression, not current. As a matter of fact, you will have all the battery current going to the ignition system when you use a hand crank. 50 Tips   [Reply]   [Send Email]
FatTony 11-07-2009 11:29:42 205.231.151.8 740148 Report to Moderator	Re: Poll: Average cranking time on cold start? in reply to dave bjornson, 11-07-2009 09:46:48   2 rhumpas this morning at 22 degrees with 6 volt.   [Reply]   [No Email]
Dunk 11-07-2009 11:03:42 71.86.100.241 740146 Report to Moderator	Re: Poll: Average cranking time on cold start? in reply to TheOldHokie, 11-07-2009 09:46:48   Dan in CO said: (quoted from post at 15:00:11 11/07/09) Both N's (45 and 47) are 6 volt and start by 1st or 2nd revolution Same here on my '49. Keep in mind that you should be able to start them with a hand crank.   [Reply]   [No Email]
Dan in CO 11-07-2009 11:00:11 72.19.169.14 740144 Report to Moderator	Re: Poll: Average cranking time on cold start? in reply to dave bjornson, 11-07-2009 09:46:48   Both N's (45 and 47) are 6 volt and start by 1st or 2nd revolution   [Reply]   [No Email]
Dr. Bert 11-07-2009 10:47:50 72.36.57.58 740142 Report to Moderator	Re: Poll: Average cranking time on cold start? in reply to dave bjornson, 11-07-2009 09:46:48   My N's usually turn over 2 to 3 times before starting. 9N and 8N.   [Reply]   [No Email]
Bruce (VA) 11-07-2009 10:06:28 24.125.26.10 740140 Report to Moderator	Re: Poll: Average cranking time on cold start? in reply to dave bjornson, 11-07-2009 09:46:48   No, that's not normal for me. If I crank any of my 4 N's more than 5 seconds, I consider it to be a problem. But, before I offer a few suggestions, is the tractor 6v or 12v? 50 Tips   [Reply]   [Send Email]
heybusdriver 11-07-2009 10:06:17 70.71.132.55 740139 Report to Moderator	Re: Poll: Average cranking time on cold start? in reply to dave bjornson, 11-07-2009 09:46:48   All mine are converted to 12 volt , all start before you can count to 3. My tractor after sitting all winter at my recreational property in a dry shed from Oct to April , 1st start takes maybe 10 -15 seconds , after that to the count of 2 rest of the season. Stan 1949 8N146710 1949 8N179555 1949 8N197904 1950 8N254079 1951 8N362039 & a 1950 parts tractor In a pear tree   [Reply]   [Send Email]
Dean 11-07-2009 10:05:12 67.172.13.37 740138 Report to Moderator	Re: Poll: Average cranking time on cold start? in reply to dave bjornson, 11-07-2009 09:46:48   Dave: If everything is in good condition, the engine should start within about 2 revolutions - perhaps a couple more if it is bitterly cold. In any event, starter motors are intermittant duty motors and should not be operated continuously longer than 20 seconds or so without a significant cool down period. Dean   [Reply]   [No Email]