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formerjackman 08-20-2008 16:46:38 65.40.125.40 4906 Report to Moderator	Okay...I finally got the front end of the 8N jacked up so i can change the tire. I unbolted the six lug nuts...shouldn"t the wheel then come right off? I have banged with a mallet and it will not budge. Then I decided to remove the dust cap and adjusting nut. The nut is loose, but won"t come off the spindle. Am I missing something? [Reply]   [Send Email]
Sean (TX) 08-24-2008 05:00:28 208.117.65.248 673222 Report to Moderator	Re: Front Tire Followup Question in reply to Dustin Hill, 08-20-2008 16:46:38   formerjackman said: (quoted from post at 20:54:06 08/20/08) There was not a cotter key, but there was a set screw...i took it out before loosening the nut. Threads must be stripped. Must be why they used a set screw on the nut.   [Reply]   [No Email]
ratface 08-21-2008 10:34:57 207.63.100.164 5010 Report to Moderator	Re: Front Tire Followup Question in reply to formerjackman, 08-20-2008 16:46:38   You should feel better after reading this experience I had with a chevy pickup rear rim. Truck needs a muffler , so I drive up a small incline to get better access. Put parking brake on. Muffler installation goes smooth as silk. Undo parking brake and light is on in dash. I'm thinking the brakes got stuck.Try to remove right rim, won't budge. Beat with sledge and damage hub. Create ridge and now it won't move. Knock lugs through drum and drive truck. it breaks loose after six hours of agony. Now axle seal is leaking. Break rusted bleeder screw trying to remove axle. Must take differential cover off to remove axle. differential plug is rusted solid. Won't come out. try chisel and hammer and impact. won't come out.Drill and tap new hole to refill diferential. Put back together. Bleed brakes. No neutral. Take all back apart and redo spider gears and put all back together. turned into a three day nightmare. You are still ahead of the game!   [Reply]   [No Email]
trucker40 08-21-2008 09:03:38 69.152.172.141 5006 Report to Moderator	Re: Front Tire Followup Question in reply to formerjackman, 08-20-2008 16:46:38   If it screwed off,it ought to screw back on.You said the threads felt alright.Maybe you want to clean it good and look them over real good.Still if it screwed off,it should go back on.Sometimes stuff like that is a little hard to start,maybe walk away for a few minutes and come back and it might go right on.If you have a torch,even a propane torch,you can put a little heat on your rim,or some penetrating oil,and then hit it with a hammer on the tire and see if it comes off.   [Reply]   [No Email]
soundguy 08-21-2008 06:28:45 12.64.30.92 4995 Report to Moderator	Re: Front Tire Followup Question in reply to formerjackman, 08-20-2008 16:46:38   It soulds like you can't get the rim of fthe hub, and have now pulle dthe hub grease cap and are attempting to remove the castelated nut holding the bearings and hub to the spindle ( why? ) The castelated nut won't come off probably because you didn't mention removing a cotter pin... However.. removing the hub from the spindle isn't what you are after is it? Aren't you tring to get the rim of fthe hub? get a hammer and bang on the rim / tire .. it will slip off.. soundguy   [Reply]   [Send Email]
Jubeguy 08-20-2008 20:10:53 207.109.182.190 4953 Report to Moderator	Re: Front Tire Followup Question in reply to formerjackman, 08-20-2008 16:46:38   You probably pulled the threads in the nut. If the spindle is OK put some pressure against a socket as you thread the nut back on. The spindle should be a harder material than the nut. You should be able to gently force the nut back on without damaging the spindle threads. Us some oil or some grease to lube the threads good. Go slow, thread it on some and then back it off, repeat this process until you get it back where it was.   [Reply]   [No Email]
BillM (OH) 08-20-2008 18:01:52 75.109.159.183 4933 Report to Moderator	Re: Front Tire Followup Question in reply to formerjackman, 08-20-2008 16:46:38   Yeah, the tire should come off with the lug nuts removed. Use a sledge hammer and whale the bejeebers out of it - don't hit the rim. Sounds like you'll need to chase the threads on the spindle threads or get a replacement nut, or both.   [Reply]   [Send Email]
formerjackman 08-20-2008 18:03:39 65.40.125.40 4934 Report to Moderator	Re: Front Tire Followup Question in reply to BillM (OH), 08-20-2008 18:01:52   the problem now is how to remove the nut. It spins freely, but will not come off.   [Reply]   [No Email]
jon 08-20-2008 17:43:16 68.189.146.220 4929 Report to Moderator	Re: Front Tire Followup Question in reply to formerjackman, 08-20-2008 16:46:38   formerjackman said: The nut will not come all the way off, nor go back on. It is almost like there is a ridge at the end of the spindle Did you get all of the cotter key out?   [Reply]   [No Email]
formerjackman 08-20-2008 17:54:06 65.40.125.40 4930 Report to Moderator	Re: Front Tire Followup Question in reply to jon, 08-20-2008 17:43:16   There was not a cotter key, but there was a set screw...i took it out before loosening the nut.   [Reply]   [No Email]
jon 08-20-2008 17:26:58 68.189.146.220 4926 Report to Moderator	Re: Front Tire Followup Question in reply to Hobo,NC, 08-20-2008 16:46:38   formerjackman said: (quoted from post at 20:24:10 08/20/08) Yes, it was hard coming off, but i can feel the threads and they feel ok Eeee, thats a weird one. Unless they got really hot by turning them I don't know about that. You might try cleaning them up real good with a small brush or may have to chase the threads with a tap & die.   [Reply]   [No Email]
formerjackman 08-20-2008 17:36:56 65.40.125.40 4928 Report to Moderator	Re: Front Tire Followup Question in reply to jon, 08-20-2008 17:26:58   The nut will not come all the way off, nor go back on. It is almost like there is a ridge at the end of the spindle   [Reply]   [No Email]
jon 08-20-2008 17:21:44 68.189.146.220 4922 Report to Moderator	Re: Front Tire Followup Question in reply to formerjackman, 08-20-2008 16:46:38   formerjackman said: I cannot get the adjuster nut to thread back on to the spindle. Is there a trick to doing this? Was it hard coming off like maybe it was galded?   [Reply]   [No Email]
formerjackman 08-20-2008 17:24:10 65.40.125.40 4924 Report to Moderator	Re: Front Tire Followup Question in reply to jon, 08-20-2008 17:21:44   Yes, it was hard coming off, but i can feel the threads and they feel ok   [Reply]   [No Email]
old 08-20-2008 17:10:29 4.244.186.174 4915 Report to Moderator	Re: Front Tire Followup Question in reply to formerjackman, 08-20-2008 16:46:38   Very common problem. Do as Sean has said if it holds air long enough to do so. If now then whack it hard front and back on the back side of it and it should pop loose sooner or later BTDT many times on many machines   [Reply]   [Send Email]
Sean (TX) 08-20-2008 16:49:46 208.117.65.248 4909 Report to Moderator	Re: Front Tire Followup Question in reply to OKDAD, 08-20-2008 16:46:38   Put the the dust cap and adjusting nut back on. Drive tractor around abit with loose lug nuts. Rim must be rusted on.   [Reply]   [No Email]
jon 08-20-2008 16:49:26 68.189.146.220 4908 Report to Moderator	Re: Front Tire Followup Question in reply to formerjackman, 08-20-2008 16:46:38   You need to put the spindle back on & knock the crap outta the wheel, front & back. It's probably just rusted to the hub. Some of 'em can be tough but it'll break loose.   [Reply]   [No Email]
formerjackman 08-20-2008 17:16:11 65.40.125.40 4919 Report to Moderator	Re: Front Tire Followup Question in reply to jon, 08-20-2008 16:49:26   I cannot get the adjuster nut to thread back on to the spindle. Is there a trick to doing this?   [Reply]   [No Email]
36 coupe 08-24-2008 03:21:28 64.136.26.226 673220 Report to Moderator	Re: Front Tire Followup Question in reply to formerjackman, 08-20-2008 17:16:11   You have a stripped spindle.Rim centers oftem rust tight to hubs.There are collet type spindle nuts that may work if you can get the old nut off.   [Reply]   [No Email]