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rust-o 01-19-2013 19:13:58 75.192.24.122 Report to Moderator	I recently bought a Massey 3165( industrial 165) with IPTO. when I flip on the pto it starts up really fast. Havent tried it on my baler yet but i have the feeling it might just sheer the pin. Is it normal for it to jerk on or is it supposed to engage slowly? Also I am only use to live pto, Is it normal for a IPTO to run even with the cluch in. or do you have to flip the lever off to stop the pto Thanks [Reply]   [No Email]
rust-o 01-20-2013 10:23:43 75.192.160.176 Report to Moderator	Re: 165 Independant pto in reply to rust-o, 01-19-2013 19:13:58   Thanks guys... Good info [Reply]  [No Email]
Tom from Buckeye Lake 01-20-2013 07:25:11 69.160.178.247 Report to Moderator	Re: 165 Independant pto in reply to rust-o, 01-19-2013 19:13:58   My 150 has IPTO. It's on or off, you have to idle engine and engage slowly, I sheared several pins learning. I also added an over-running clutch to save the brake. The brake is more to hold than to stop. [Reply]  [No Email]
samn40 01-20-2013 04:21:36 217.43.59.224 Report to Moderator	Re: 165 Independant pto in reply to rust-o, 01-19-2013 19:13:58   Always engage the PTO at tick-over and definately disengage it at tickover, Or if you have some machine that still has momentum in the shaft and no over-run clutch then stop the engine before disengaging. This might not seem conventional to do this ...but your brake will last a lot longer. The reason... once you disengage, the oil is diverted from the clutch plates to the brake, immediately. so the brake has a job to stop the revolving hub. So the slower you can get that hub before disengaging the longer your brake lasts........Your call! Sam [Reply]  [No Email]
MJ in the UK 01-20-2013 06:06:49 213.122.91.215 Report to Moderator	Re: 165 Independant pto in reply to samn40, 01-20-2013 04:21:36   Hi Sam, only new of one MF165 with independant PTO in my part of the UK. Most of the MF users bought the 168 if the wanted IPTO. Nice pictures of the fleet of Frenchs wagons, usually have a natter to them at the Newark tractor show. This next year at Newark we are featuring Massey Harris and Ferguson and it would be good to get some of the 12 Ferguson 40 tractors you mentioned. Michael Hart. E mail address is michael_hart@live.co.uk [Reply]  [No Email]
Roy in UK 01-20-2013 23:39:33 86.161.73.160 Report to Moderator	Re: 165 Independant pto in reply to MJ in the UK, 01-20-2013 06:06:49   We had a 168 which was a very good tractor as such but I hated that I.P.T.O. No matter how careful you were it always engaged 'suddenly'. Not good news if you had a loaded muckspreader on the back or that god awful 3 foot P.T.O. shaft with the wide angle coupling that was on our Howard Bigbaler Mk.1 [Reply]  [No Email]
Lee231 01-19-2013 19:53:34 66.87.4.195 Report to Moderator	Re: 165 Independant pto in reply to rust-o, 01-19-2013 19:13:58   You have to engage the lever slowly on the PTO to keep from jerking. Yes the PTO will run no matter the clutch position. The lever is the only control for the PTO. HTH"s Lee [Reply]  [No Email]