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NCMau

01-18-2013 11:37:40
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There a leak from one of the banjo fittings in the power steering valve, Part# 1 751 875 M1. The thread that connect to the hose is somewhat stripped. According to the MF dealer, that part is no longer available. I emailed AGCO and they didn't even answer, so I assume they don"t have it. I can't believe that a common banjo fitting is non-existing. There must be a source somewhere. I did some googling but I didn"t come up with anything.

Can anybody point me the right direction?

If this part can not be found, is there a way that I can fix this thread? One solution I was thinking was to epoxy or braze an extension (male/female) to the fitting.
Maybe you guys have some words of wisdom.

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Inno

01-30-2013 19:53:50
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 Re: Question on MF 202 Power Steering in reply to NCMau, 01-18-2013 11:37:40  
Finally got 'em packed up. Should get them sent tomorrow.



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Inno

01-23-2013 08:02:49
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 Re: Question on MF 202 Power Steering in reply to NCMau, 01-18-2013 11:37:40  
Well gosh........they're rare antique parts......discontinued and all.......... :)

I have no use for them and you are a regular here who contributes to the community. I'll send them to you for the cost of shipping which shouldn't be too much.



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NCMau

01-23-2013 11:22:28
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 Re: Question on MF 202 Power Steering in reply to Inno, 01-23-2013 08:02:49  
You are a great guy Inno. Give me an address and I'll send you the
money. My address:

M. Ferrari
2021 Carl Freeman road,
Stedman, NC 28391



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Inno

01-22-2013 20:47:47
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 Re: Question on MF 202 Power Steering in reply to NCMau, 01-18-2013 11:37:40  
But wait...I had a look through the box of parts this evening and here's what I found...



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NCMau

01-23-2013 05:35:58
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 Re: Question on MF 202 Power Steering in reply to Inno, 01-22-2013 20:47:47  
Inno, It looks like exactly what I need. The one I need the most is
3/4" thick and the other one (7/8") I can use it too.
Shoot me an email and let me know how much you want and I'll be
happy to oblige.
Thanks.



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Inno

01-19-2013 19:45:41
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 Re: Question on MF 202 Power Steering in reply to NCMau, 01-18-2013 11:37:40  
Just re-watched the video, the answer to the above question is in there, all the fittings look to have been broken off.



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Inno

01-19-2013 19:40:28
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 Re: Question on MF 202 Power Steering in reply to NCMau, 01-18-2013 11:37:40  
With all the parts my 202 needed to make the power steering work again I figured it would cost me well over $1500, many of the parts would either be used or have to me machined and fighting with the original fittings as you are doing didn't seem like a good option.

This was a few years ago now but I think I spent somewhere around $500-600 for everything. One thing that reduced my cost a great deal was a great deal I found on E-Bay for a used Char-Lynn power steering valve. For $135 I got the valve, steering shaft, steering wheel and 4 6' lengths of hydraulic hose.

Here is a link to a video I made explaining some of it.

http://youtu.be/aXM-ISkLfjQ

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Inno

01-19-2013 11:35:35
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 Re: Question on MF 202 Power Steering in reply to NCMau, 01-18-2013 11:37:40  
I googled hydraulic banjo fittings and came up with tube-gear.com which looks like it has similar looking fittings although I am not sure if they would be exactly right for your needs.

Too bad they were all broken off of my 202 because I removed all the old factory stuff when I put together a fully hydrostatic power steering system for it. I will have a look to make sure but I am pretty sure they were all snapped off at the valve body.

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NCMau

01-19-2013 13:19:14
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 Re: Question on MF 202 Power Steering in reply to Inno, 01-19-2013 11:35:35  
Yes Inno, I googled that site and plus many others. I didn't realized there are that many shapes
of banjos, some even look like commodes.
If I am not mistaking, the JIC-06 (nominal 3/8") has a male thread of 3/8"-18, which is the
same for 3/8 pipe. Even though the pipe has a taper, I'm still not sure if I can use it for the JIC
fitting as well.
It would be great If you do have a usable banjo fitting. I'll be more than glad to take care the
expenses. I love my 202. It did have lots of issues, but little by little I took care most of them.
Can you give little info on your fully hydrostatic power steering? It is interesting as much as
expensive. Please email or post it. Thanks.

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DavidP, South Wales

01-18-2013 14:52:12
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 Re: Question on MF 202 Power Steering in reply to NCMau, 01-18-2013 11:37:40  
Hi, can you post a photo?

DavidP, South Wales



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NCMau

01-19-2013 07:49:07
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 Re: Question on MF 202 Power Steering in reply to DavidP, South Wales, 01-18-2013 14:52:12  

Hi DavidP, thanks for the reply.
The fitting in question is the #1. Behind the bolt the fitting is 3/4" thick. I made an attempt to fix the problem by epoxing the extension adapter(#2) to the stripped fitting. The epoxy seems to be holding okay but it is leaking on the other end because the extension is a 45 deg. flare gas fitting and the mating hose is 37 deg. I had the brass extension on hand, so I figured I give a try.
So, I suppose the different flare degree and/or possibly the hose fitting are damaged.
I would much rather find a source for a new banjo fitting, but if I have no choice, I'll use a suggested practical solution that is better than mine.

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