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Could this have cracked the head?

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Need advice! While swapping my tractor engine with another known good one, I had to remove a gorpy bracket that was held down with two head bolts. By taking this loose & then retightening the nuts after bracket removal, could the head have cracked? (continental f-140.
When starting everything up, I now have air getting into cooling system. Put new head gasket on correctly & still have the same problem. Has anyone successfully used block sealer for remedy?
 
Never heard the term gorpy before. Iron tite makes a good block sealer. They have a couple different ones depending if it's a just a small leak or a major problem. Dave
 
Dave. Sorry for a common slang word that we use around here. "Gorpy" refers to anything that's ugly, unuseful, and in the way. Ever seen things like that bolted, scabbed, & welded to something?
Anyways, thanks for the advice about sealer. Still would like to know if loosening two head bolts close together at the front end of the head & then retightening could crack it? One old mechanic friend says yes.
 
Hi,
Will have to add 'gorpy' to my dictionary of American English to English English words!!!! My feeling is that if these tow bolts were close together and the engine was cold, it would not do any damage. Are there other bolts close by that emained tight. The biggest danger would be slackening all of the bolts in the front half say whilst the rear ones remained fully tight.
DavidP, South Wales
 
Doesn't sound likely to me, in general terms. That's a gas engine right? How about putting compressed air in each cylinder and seeing which one is leaking?

Gorp is actually a conjunction of GOO and BURP, referring of course to the muck that ends up landing on our tractors by various means. :)
 
R U sure this second engine was really possitively awesomely good? Did it maybe have coolant issues before you swapped it? This is why repairing or rebuilding the engine you got is so popular.... you sure you put all the bolts back in- or atleast no empty screw holes after the swap?
 
Hi David,
My mum was Welsh and the term she used was "dork" or "dorked" e.g. "His boots were dorked up with mud" or (One of her favourites if she saw a girl that seemed to have used way too much make-up) "She has got some dork on, did she use a trowel?"
These days the word "dork" seems to be used instead of "idiot" or "fool".
 
All discussions of dorks and gorp, aside, LOL, there is a possibility you could have cracked something, especially if you torqued the bolts down hard. Also could be that the crack was already there, and it's no one's fault. Also could be a bad head gasket, have you checked that?
 
Hi Roy,
Know the terms but not heard of them with reference to mud, make-up etc altough I do know about the trowel. Have consulted 18 yo daughter who knows of these things and agree for 'idiot' etc but also informed it can apply to someone who looks gormless,awkward etc.

DavidP
 
OK guys. Thanks for the replies. Some details that I might have left out: Took head off, cleaned everything very good, couldn't find any cracks visually on block, head or gasket. Waterpump & radiator has been checked as very good. I carefully installed a new gasket. While everything's still together, I'm going to try K-W block sealer & see what happens. I guess the next step after that, if not successful, will be remove head & have magnafluxed. Sound OK so Far?
 
You might want to try a CO test, on the cooling system, too. It's a test that uses a special vial that fits into the radiator top, has a sintered bronze plug, that allows gasses up through it, but does not let the blue dye fluid through it. You let the dye fluid sit, and let the steam from the radiator bubble through the dye. If the dye goes to clear, it means that CO, or engine exhaust fumes are getting into your cooling system.
 
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