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Topic: hydraulic valve for mf-35
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rick165

11-19-2009 14:57:35
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i got a used hyd valve today that bolts on top of the trans cover.there is 2 levers that operate it about 7 in tall and about 2 in. apart.guy i got it from said to pull back and lock in place the one on the left and operate the cylinder with the one on the right.can some one explain how to plumb this thing up and how it actually works thanks RICK.

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doehmke

11-21-2009 06:26:43
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Re: Factory made hydraulic return port in reply to Fred Hart, 11-19-2009 14:57:35  
Any relative benefit of one of these auxiliary hydraulic valves vs. a front pump on an MF-35? I just set-up a front pump on mine, though do have the auxiliary vale which was already in place.

Dan

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135 Fan

11-20-2009 21:55:16
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Re: hydraulic valve for mf-35 in reply to rick165, 11-19-2009 14:57:35  
Can you post a picture of the valve or look in the archives on here to see if your valve matches. Several months ago someone posted some very good pictures of a 2 spool aux. valve. Yes it would run double acting cylinders but could also be adjusted for single acting. I have the same valve on my tractor. One lever supplies oil to the 3 pt. and the other is for aux. hyd's. They can't be used at the same time. Dave

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rick165

11-21-2009 01:02:17
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Re: hydraulic valve for mf-35 in reply to 135 Fan, 11-20-2009 21:55:16  
i will put a picture of the valve on here but it will be late saturday afternoon or sunday morning thanks RICK

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DavidP,South Wales

11-19-2009 15:08:09
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Re: hydraulic valve for mf-35 in reply to rick165, 11-19-2009 14:57:35  
The valve that you have is an 'isolating valve'.
Without the valve, when you lift the quadrant lever oil is pumped to the lift cylinder to raise the 3-pt. With the ISO valve fitted by holding one lever back oil is pumped to the couplings mounted on the rear of the tractor. The 3-pt is held in place and will stay up subject to the condition of the system. If you do not already have them you will need two hyd hoses to reach the rear, two quick release couplings and clamps to mount the couplings usually on two of the axle housing bolts. Fitting the valve is straight forward. When you lift the cap off, if you have Pressure Control (unlikely on a 35) the tube will lift a little. If not the tube may come out with the cap. It will be necessary to 'fish' around a little to engage the bottom of the tube in the pump port. With the tube in place make sure the O ring on the face is present and carefully fit the valve over it. You may need longer 7/16 unc bolts. Connect up the pipes and couplings. Job done.

DavidP, South Wales

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rick165

11-19-2009 15:49:22
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Re: hydraulic valve for mf-35 in reply to DavidP,South Wales, 11-19-2009 15:08:09  
hi david i am a little confused about where the 2 hyd. hoses actually plumb into this valve am i using the lever that locks in place .each lever only has 1 place for a hose im confused where the hoses come and go thanks RICK.

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DavidP, South Wales

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Re: hydraulic valve for mf-35 in reply to rick165, 11-19-2009 15:49:22  
Hi Rick,
OK looks like you have a valve that will only operate two single acting rams. If you have to hold one lever back then that will provide a constant flow to an implement that has its own valve block and controls. You will need a return line to be fitted back to the tractor. The best place is via an adaptor at the oil filler plug next to the gear lever.

DavidP

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rick165

11-20-2009 16:56:03
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Re: hydraulic valve for mf-35 in reply to DavidP, South Wales, 11-20-2009 02:13:59  
thanks for your input guys but i just found out i have a one way valve and it will not work a cylinder both ways is this correct.thanks RICK

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jack in nb

11-20-2009 15:19:11
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Factory made hydraulic return port in reply to DavidP, South Wales, 11-20-2009 02:13:59  
Hi folks -

A few years back, I fitted two units with those remotes. The first, I drilled and tapped the transmission housing for the return. Then for the next one, somebody suggested tapping the filler plug.

Which I did.

About a month later, a guru here told us about the return port already on the tractor.

It's a 3/8" or 1/2" pipe plug with an Allen hex socket head, located on the top of the left side of the cover under the seat.

I had those covers off probably 2 dozen times at that point, and never noticed it. Duhhh!

A second point -

If you need to control one or more double acting cylinders with that switch valve, you can feed the port on the right spool into a remote conventional control valve with one or more double acting spools. Both spools on the switch valve on the transmission are locked back to operate the remote.

It's been my experience that the 3 point arms on the 35 should be in a lower position to give full output to the remote. As the arms come up, pump flow is decreased.

My remote valves are mounted up to the right of the throttle and steering wheel, on loader frames. I did have a three spool valve mounted on the right fender at one time.

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DavidP, South Wales

11-21-2009 09:26:08
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Re: Factory made hydraulic return port in reply to jack in nb, 11-20-2009 15:19:11  
Return point.
Hello Jack,
Whilst the return point on the side of the cover may be used, (done it myself) it is not the best place for the return line. Depending on the circumstances of the valve, pipework and implement being operated it may not be big enough.
If you are operating a single acting ram such as a trailer the problem will occur when you want to let the body down. Oil from the pump is sent around the circuit and back to this return point.
In order for the trailer to drop the oil in the cylinder also has to come down this line. So, in effect you have two lots of oil trying to pass through a hose which is probably 3/8" bore. Even if the hose is 1/2" it still has to go through the 'restrictor' which will be the fitting in the cover. The return line MUST be larger than the supply and all fittings kept as large as possible.

DavidP

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