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THREE CS

11-06-2009 12:23:13
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WE ARE WORKING ON A 1130 MF CUSTOMER SAID THAT SHORTLY AFTER START UP PRESURE WOULD BUILD UP AND POP THE RADIATOR CAP OFF SO WE PULLED THE HEAD OF AND FOUND NO PROBLEMS WITH THE HEAD GASKET SENT THE HEAD TO THE MACHINE SHOP THEY FOUND NO PROBLEMS WITH IT AND HAD THE RADIATOR PRESURE CHECKED AND CLEANED IT WAS FULL OF MOTOR OIL AND FOUND NO PROBLEMS WITH IT WE ARE THINKING THAT THE BLOCK IS CRACKED OR MABIE A LINER WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK

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jogl

11-06-2009 15:08:39
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Re: 1130 MF in reply to THREE CS, 11-06-2009 12:23:13  
Is there an oil cooler in that radiator? If so, I would double check the oil cooler for leaks.

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JP.

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joeinthesnow

11-06-2009 16:05:21
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Re: 1130 MF in reply to jogl, 11-06-2009 15:08:39  
I will agree with your oil cooler diagnosis. Our 1130 had identical symptoms and we replaced the radiator,which contained the oil cooler. An external oil cooler is probably the better solution.I have seen some on white 2-105 and oliver 1850 tractors. Hot engine oil at 40psi or more will boil your radiator quickly and radiator cap is maybe 10psi or less. Joe

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three cs

11-06-2009 17:51:51
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Re: 1130 MF in reply to joeinthesnow, 11-06-2009 16:05:21  
we had the oil cooler checked out at the same time the radiator was checked they are good

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DavidP,South Wales

11-06-2009 12:56:40
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Re: 1130 MF in reply to THREE CS, 11-06-2009 12:23:13  
Hi, assume this is an AT6.354 fitted?
Didn't you notice any oil present in the water when you removed the head? Did you check all of the bores before refitting? Is there an oil cooler at the bottom of the radiator? The gist of what you are saying is that the cooling system is becoming pressurised by oil under pressure from the oil pump. This pressure is enough to cause the radiator cap to blow. Is this correct? Any block cracking is more likely to allow water into the oil. A cracked liner and perhaps a cracked or damaged parent bore should only allow loss of compression.
Suggest checking all of the galleries up to the rockers and turbo just in case there is a blockage or significant restriction and the oil has forced its way through the head gasket and into the water jacket.

DavidP

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THREE CS

11-06-2009 13:47:39
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Re: 1130 MF in reply to DavidP,South Wales, 11-06-2009 12:56:40  
THANKS FOR THE REPLY EVERYTHING YOU SAID IS CORRECT WE WERE THINKING THAT COMPRESSION WAS CAUSING THE RADIATOR CAP TO POP BUT I BELIVE YOU ARE CORRECT IT IS IN THE OIL GALLERIES OR THE TURBO WE DIDNT THINK OF THAT THANKS

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