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Buster 03-03-2013 13:51:50 75.121.34.209 Report to Moderator	Is there a serial number archive available for the model unstyled A JD's? Can anyone tell me what wheels, ect. this tractor came with when it was new? Serial number is 457270, 1937 model. [Reply]   [No Email]
pbb 03-04-2013 15:04:25 67.231.39.105 Report to Moderator	Re: JD A Serial Number in reply to Buster, 03-03-2013 13:51:50   My 37 A was built 1695 later than yours.Mine is 458965.They say mine was built in June that year.It has the small letters on the axel housing and dont have the updated upper cultivator bracket cast in the upper pedistal.My tractor has a roll up curtain on the radiator.The correct police will get me too because I got the 4 sloted front wheels, cut off flat spokes with 14.9-38s on the back.I even have a cold gas manifold as well.The people in the parades or the everyday person dont know the difference. They just love seeing a old Jd.Dont worry about it being correct just have fun with it. [Reply]  [No Email]
Paul from MI 03-03-2013 19:11:09 204.106.250.243 Report to Moderator	Re: JD A Serial Number in reply to Buster, 03-03-2013 13:51:50   I think Deere/Two Cylinder figured out a better way. Last one I had done was for my '37 B two years ago, cost was $35. I don't think non-members can get the research at all. You do get very nice notarized certificate where you used to get just a hand written card. However some of the information on mine was not correct, but through the help of AGuru on this site I found the correct data. No ones particular fault, just trying to read 75 year old hand written records. But they wouldn't double check to be sure what they told me was correct, even after I verified that the info was wrong through the Michigan State Historical Society. Kind of a bummer! [Reply]  [No Email]
A GURU 03-03-2013 19:09:52 65.101.253.114 Report to Moderator	Re: JD A Serial Number in reply to Buster, 03-03-2013 13:51:50   Here is what I see on your tractor from the one picture. As B-maniac said the rear wheels, nor the front are original. In fact I might be mistaken, but the rear axles look like 12 or 15 spline (can't tell for sure from the pic) instead of the 10 that would have been used up until SN 460000. They almost have to be the later available (1945) bolt in hub rear wheels. The front wheels, if rubber from the factory, would have been solid steel disc instead of slotted. As Bman and Wilamayb said, it currently costs $35 plus $9 shipping(I think it still says $8 on the website) to get the detailed info from T-C Club. It does still say it's for members only, but I think if you order online they will process your order regardless. The document you recieve will always give warehoused and ship dates, branch house, and most of the time final destination and wheel equipment, and sometimes powerlift serial number if it was so equipped. I can tell you this from much research and documenting other tractors that I have done. Your tractor was most likely built on 5/21/37 (Friday), but could be within a day or two of that, as long as it was just your run of the mill build. There are always exceptions to this but that is the most "likely" build date. I would be interested in any details you might be willing to share about this tractor for my records. In particular the maincase heat code number (maybe about 148-37), block heat code (if it has the original block), and powerlift serial number if it has one. As I said before, it looks like it has axles that are not original (and maybe the axle housing as well). Maybe the tractor is made up from more than one tractor. It's not that uncommon and I would be glad to help you decipher what you have, as would many others on here. Let me know if I can help further. E-mail is always open if you prefer. Good luck and enjoy your tractor. [Reply]  [No Email]
A GURU 03-04-2013 10:19:22 75.220.107.229 Report to Moderator	Re: JD A Serial Number in reply to A GURU, 03-03-2013 19:09:52   Guess my e-mail was not open. I also wanted to add the same sentiment that Bob Harvey did. It does not matter to me in the least what is or is not original/ is or is not the correct part on any tractor. I am just glad to see another one saved from being busted up at a scrap yard, even if it takes ten tractors to make one complete one. Your tractor looks great. Keep up the good work. [Reply]  [No Email]
B-maniac 03-03-2013 17:47:51 97.92.55.60 Report to Moderator	Re: JD A Serial Number in reply to Buster, 03-03-2013 13:51:50   Steel spoke wheels without rubber were standard on all unstyled "A",s.Those front wheels are not original to the "A" as standard or option. Optional solid disc center wheels were offered but did not have the 4 slots yours do. The rear , because of the type wedge clamp it has, according to the book would be a later replacement wheel made by French& Hecht for JD and carried JD pt. # 1270 - 1271. Spokes would be 7/8 dia. Originals didn't have that type wedge/clamp. They made these type over the counter replacement wheels well up into the 1940,s. I say close enoug but the correct police will probably nail ya. GET A COPY OF " The Unstyled Model "A" advertised in back of Green Magazine. Will show you All the available wheels and everything else you need to know about them. Worth the money. [Reply]  [No Email]
Bob Harvey 03-03-2013 16:50:21 209.121.225.171 Report to Moderator	Re: JD A Serial Number in reply to Buster, 03-03-2013 13:51:50   I'm of the school of WGAS. The unit looks good - enjoy !! [Reply]  [No Email]
Buster 03-03-2013 18:55:11 72.161.5.28 Report to Moderator	Re: JD A Serial Number in reply to Bob Harvey, 03-03-2013 16:50:21   Thanks for the comments guys. I have a set of spokes that is going on the front. Hope to have it done this summer. If the correct police don't like the looks of it they can walk on by. It is looking better than the day I drug it home. [Reply]  [No Email]
Bman 03-03-2013 14:07:09 173.18.52.156 Report to Moderator	Re: JD A Serial Number in reply to Buster, 03-03-2013 13:51:50   You have to be a 2 cylinder member and then pay $35 to get a serial number researched for an unstyled A. [Reply]  [No Email]
gtx1967jewison 03-03-2013 15:48:47 174.225.134.202 Report to Moderator	Re: JD A Serial Number in reply to Bman, 03-03-2013 14:07:09   WRONG. Members are $20. NON-members are $35. Its neat, but all the info you seek is not always available. [Reply]  [No Email]
Wilamayb 03-03-2013 17:46:18 71.15.146.140 Report to Moderator	Re: JD A Serial Number in reply to gtx1967jewison, 03-03-2013 15:48:47   I copied this off the two cylinder site. "Production information on most models of John Deere Two-Cylinder Tractors is available exclusively for members of the Two-Cylinder Club at $35 for each research. The information will be supplied on a personalized document especially created for this purpose." It looks as if it is no longer avaialble to non-members. [Reply]  [No Email]
Wilamayb 03-03-2013 17:20:47 71.15.146.140 Report to Moderator	Re: JD A Serial Number in reply to gtx1967jewison, 03-03-2013 15:48:47   You sure about that Boss? Last I heard there was no differential between members/non-members. Maybe it reverted back to the old ways? It changed to everyone paying the same a couple years ago. [Reply]  [No Email]
Bman 03-03-2013 16:29:57 173.18.52.156 Report to Moderator	Re: JD A Serial Number in reply to gtx1967jewison, 03-03-2013 15:48:47   When did they change it to $20? The 2 cylinder web site says $35 for members. Doesn't say anything for non-members. . [Reply]  [No Email]
gtx1967jewison 03-03-2013 20:29:37 174.225.134.202 Report to Moderator	Re: JD A Serial Number in reply to Bman, 03-03-2013 16:29:57   Geez! I dont know, I got mine about 6-7 yrs ago. Didnt realize its been that long! Back then it was $20 & non members were more. One i did was pretty interesting, the other 3 not so much. Depends on the year etc. Worth it though i think :-) [Reply]  [No Email]