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aph620 02-16-2013 21:09:52 70.194.129.172 Report to Moderator	does anyone know if a 359 john deere combine engine has the same bolt pattern as a 3010 bell housing and will mate with the 3010 without an adapter plate and if there is a flywheel that a clutch and pressure plate will bolt to that will work in the 3010. [Reply]   [No Email]
buickanddeere 02-18-2013 06:29:13 209.240.116.36 Report to Moderator	Re: 3010 repower in reply to aph620, 02-16-2013 21:09:52   What is going on with the 3010 to make an engine transplant wanted? [Reply]  [No Email]
aph620 02-18-2013 07:38:17 70.194.132.240 Report to Moderator	Re: 3010 repower in reply to buickanddeere, 02-18-2013 06:29:13   the original engine has a hole on each side about the size of your fist in the original 3010 engines.the engines i have found run in the 3000.00 dollar range and if you have to do anything else it would be more than the tractor is worth.i just hate to part one out i know i;m silly but to me when their gone you lose a piece of what made in U.S.A stod for and it also was one of the last one made 1963 thanks to all that replied . [Reply]  [No Email]
sideconsole4020guy 02-18-2013 19:26:30 216.249.194.192 Report to Moderator	Re: 3010 repower in reply to aph620, 02-18-2013 07:38:17   I would not do as some say and scrap it as it will be gone forever. I know the engines are hard to come by and think that a 329 or similar engine would be an interesting swap. After all this is the year 2013 and any thing can be done we put a man on the moon in the 60's so why can't a engine be swapped in in this day and age? [Reply]  [No Email]
Tim S 02-18-2013 19:31:34 99.168.73.131 Report to Moderator	Re: 3010 repower in reply to sideconsole4020guy, 02-18-2013 19:26:30   Oh you can bolt a 404/466 right into it,,but you will need to stretch the hood a bit to make it fit.... [Reply]  [No Email]
ss55 02-18-2013 04:51:33 173.31.19.80 Report to Moderator	Re: 3010 repower in reply to aph620, 02-16-2013 21:09:52   It sounds like power shift transmissions are getting expensive to rebuild or impossible to find parts for. Is it practicle to transplant the entire front half of a 3020/4020 PS tractor from the engine forward to the back half of a 3010 from the flywheel back? Do the cowl, dash, hydraulic valves, etc. have to be changed also? [Reply]  [No Email]
buickanddeere 02-18-2013 06:27:02 209.240.116.36 Report to Moderator	Re: 3010 repower in reply to ss55, 02-18-2013 04:51:33   The early 1960's 3010 can be sold for salvage and a 1980's tractor purchased. For less money than repairing the 3010. [Reply]  [No Email]
Tx Jim 02-18-2013 06:17:37 67.142.163.22 Report to Moderator	Re: 3010 repower in reply to ss55, 02-18-2013 04:51:33   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see Powershifts are expensive to repair but what isn't? I think all the other components you inquired about will interchange. [Reply]  [No Email]
Tx Jim 02-18-2013 04:19:00 67.142.163.22 Report to Moderator	Re: 3010 repower in reply to warren woodrow, 02-16-2013 21:09:52   Although I'm not a big fan of the 3010 series rowcrop tractors there should be an adequate number of 300 series 4 cylinder power unit engines for a transplant. [Reply]  [No Email]
ukdeereman 02-17-2013 22:36:08 188.222.37.233 Report to Moderator	Re: 3010 repower in reply to aph620, 02-16-2013 21:09:52   It's my understanding that a 400 series 6 cylinder will bolt up to a 3010/20 , need longer rails , pipes , hood and stuff , but not a big job , and cheaper than a 3010/20 engine . Might need to derate the power a bit . [Reply]  [No Email]
tomstractorsandtoys1 02-17-2013 20:38:08 64.136.27.162 Report to Moderator	Re: 3010 repower in reply to aph620, 02-16-2013 21:09:52   A friend has a late model 3020 powershift that he put a 239 with a turbo in many years ago.He did a great job and it looks factory.I have seen some that look terrible.I am not sure if a 3010 is worth the expense.You maybe ahead to sell the 3010 as is and put that money toward a good 2510 or 3020 tractor. [Reply]  [No Email]
buickanddeere 02-17-2013 18:32:33 209.240.116.36 Report to Moderator	Re: 3010 repower in reply to aph620, 02-16-2013 21:09:52   The 2510 was a non side console 3020 with a four cylinder Dubuque 300 series engine. The 2520 was a side console 3020 with a Dubuque 300 series four cylinder. A 2510 and in particular the 2520 is too valuable to part out in order to re-engine a 3010. Sorry but that 3010 is either going to need a $$$ Waterloo four cylinder engine. Or give up on her. [Reply]  [No Email]
Tim S 02-17-2013 18:43:50 99.168.73.131 Report to Moderator	Re: 3010 repower in reply to buickanddeere, 02-17-2013 18:32:33   I'm with you B&D,,hang a "Do not resuscitate" sign on her... [Reply]  [No Email]
JohnDeereJimOhio 02-17-2013 09:40:12 174.231.0.212 Report to Moderator	Re: 3010 repower in reply to aph620, 02-16-2013 21:09:52   I'm doing this currently in a pulling tractor, however I'm running a 7700 combine gas engine, and 4010 frame rails just used the 3010 rear for weight [Reply]  [No Email]
Cliff Nelson 02-17-2013 06:07:34 69.21.97.161 Report to Moderator	Re: 3010 repower in reply to aph620, 02-16-2013 21:09:52   The kits from Superior Diesel also had reinforced the frame rails due to the difference in block design. There are no rear frame mounting pads on the 300 series block. Front frame mounts are on the hyd pump mount as used on 2510. A 4 cylinder will be easier to do as the length will not be an issue. [Reply]  [No Email]
coonie minnie 02-17-2013 07:31:35 50.50.148.176 Report to Moderator	Re: 3010 repower in reply to Cliff Nelson, 02-17-2013 06:07:34   Cliff- Do you have any more info on those kits? Did they make more than just a few? thanks [Reply]  [No Email]
Cliff Nelson 02-18-2013 21:24:31 69.21.97.161 Report to Moderator	Re: 3010 repower in reply to coonie minnie, 02-17-2013 07:31:35   I found the instruction sheet for the 3010/3020 kit. 4010/4020 kit was same with 6 cyl engine. [Reply]  [No Email]
Cliff Nelson 02-17-2013 21:05:54 69.21.97.161 Report to Moderator	Re: 3010 repower in reply to coonie minnie, 02-17-2013 07:31:35   I don't know how many they sold but I would say more than a few. The dealer I worked for installed a couple of them. I may still have a sales sheet, have to look. [Reply]  [No Email]
MSM 02-17-2013 04:33:12 70.192.194.194 Report to Moderator	Re: 3010 repower in reply to aph620, 02-16-2013 21:09:52   Basically you will have to use a 3010-3020 engine.The 359 will not work as a bolt in.The 359 is a 6 cylinder,so you will need a longer hood,larger radiator,and a laundry list of other parts. . A non turboed 219-239-or 276 can be adapted in,but it is still alot of work,will require a fair amount of fabricating of frame mounts,and linkages,you will need 4030 bell housing adapter,a 2510 pump stand,new throttle linkage,new tach cable,air cleaner hoses, plus the cost of a 4 cylinder engine. 3010/3020 engines/blocks are out there,but are getting scarce. You could probably buy another rough but good running 3010 for alot less than adapting in another engine. [Reply]  [No Email]
larryanderson 02-17-2013 04:20:12 184.21.172.50 Report to Moderator	Re: 3010 repower in reply to aph620, 02-16-2013 21:09:52   The problem with the 3010/20 is JD only used that engine in the tractors and used engines and some parts are hard to find.If the 329 would fit that would be great and there would be many around but I have never seen one. [Reply]  [No Email]
Tx Jim 02-17-2013 04:15:47 67.142.163.24 Report to Moderator	Re: 3010 repower in reply to jd50A, 02-16-2013 21:09:52   No 300(Dubuque/Saran) series engine will bolt up to a 3010 without the aid of a 2510/4030 clutch housing [Reply]  [No Email]
Kent Petersen 02-17-2013 10:42:57 209.62.225.173 Report to Moderator	Re: 3010 repower in reply to Tx Jim, 02-17-2013 04:15:47   you are total wrong tex Jim they dont bolt up [Reply]  [No Email]
Tx Jim 02-17-2013 11:28:36 67.142.163.27 Report to Moderator	Re: 3010 repower in reply to Kent Petersen, 02-17-2013 10:42:57   Kent Thanks for correcting me. All I did was leave out one tiny word between "will" & "bolt" that I intended to type in which was "NOT" [Reply]  [No Email]
cooney minnie 02-17-2013 05:23:32 166.182.3.125 Report to Moderator	Re: 3010 repower in reply to Tx Jim, 02-17-2013 04:15:47   If one were really intent on doing this, contact Superior Diesel in Rhinelander, WI. they are a John Deere engine distributor. In the late 80-early 90's, they had repowered 3020s (4239 etc) and 4020's (6414) repowered tractors at some farm shows. At one point, they made a kit, or at least how-to instructions, to install these engines in some of the NG tractors. They have maybe long since forgotten that they did, but they were out there! [Reply]  [No Email]