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Just an Okie 08-31-2012 07:17:37 12.31.202.50 Report to Moderator	Hello, I'm new to the JD board, my FIL left my son a 49 JD A, it has the pressed steel wheels. I am trying to get it home so we can get it running. It has the presssed steel wheels on it with the hub collar locks on the wheel's axles, not sure if I'm using the correct terminology. I am trying to set the wheels in so I can get it on the trailer. I got one of the wheels unlocked and set in, but on the other side, I've got the bolds and collar unlocked, but cannot get it to give, so I can set the other wheel in. We have it well lubbed, got 2 come alongs on it but cannot get it loose. Any suggestions would be very appreciated. Thanks, Brad [Reply]   [No Email]
NoDakInMN 09-03-2012 19:03:49 76.10.68.191 Report to Moderator	Re: 49 JD A model, Help Please!! in reply to Just an Okie, 08-31-2012 07:17:37   I wat the show in Rollag Mn ove the weekend and missed this when it came out, but if you are still struggling with moving the one wheel might I offer a solution that was given me when I have to load a 60 with wheels that did not want to move. Now assuming that the issue is clearing the fenders of the trailer, it was suggested to me that I fab up a ramp the allowed the rear tires to drive up and over the top of the trailer fenders. I used 2 pair of car ramps placed in front of and behind the trailer fenders with a chunck of 2 x 8 on each side to prevent the load from resting totally on the fenders. Worked great! I was then able to get the tractor home to work on it, which was important as it was located 240 miles away. [Reply]  [No Email]
just an okie 09-01-2012 16:11:07 99.108.87.69 Report to Moderator	Re: 49 JD A model, Help Please!! in reply to Just an Okie, 08-31-2012 07:17:37   Thank you so much for the suggestions. Appears we are heading in the correct direction. We we able to get the hub loose on the right side and moved the wheel in 5 inches, need to do the same on the left side to get on the trailer. Trailer is 82" wide. We did chase out the holes and the bolts, lubed everything generously, heated everything with a torch. We now have 2 come alongs hooked on applying pressure. This tractor has been in the barn for about 30 years out of the elements. My Farmall Super C that was out in the weeds for 30 years took me 1 hour, 1 jack and 2 wrenches to move the wheels into any position I wanted. This is a new experience with this John Deere. [Reply]  [No Email]
just an okie 09-01-2012 16:10:03 99.108.87.69 Report to Moderator	Re: 49 JD A model, Help Please!! in reply to Just an Okie, 08-31-2012 07:17:37   Thank you so much for the suggestions. Appears we are heading in the correct direction. We we able to get the hub loose on the right side and moved the wheel in 5 inches, need to do the same on the left side to get on the trailer. Trailer is 82" wide. We did chase out the holes and the bolts, lubed everything generously, heated everything with a torch. We now have 2 come alongs hooked on applying pressure. This tractor has been in the barn for about 30 years out of the elements. My Farmall Super C that was out in the weeds for 30 years took me 1 hour, 1 jack and 2 wrenches to move the wheels into any position I wanted. This is a new experience with this John Deere. [Reply]  [No Email]
greenmech 08-31-2012 19:58:50 173.84.197.141 Report to Moderator	Re: 49 JD A model, Help Please!! in reply to Just an Okie, 08-31-2012 07:17:37   You can use the collar for a puller. Get some 3/4 threaded rods and use in the three holes. Put a piece off iron between the hole and axle,start tightening. Once it comes loose ,you can push it back in. Good luck . Ron Mn. [Reply]  [No Email]
DEEREMEYER1 08-31-2012 10:59:08 71.8.242.10 Report to Moderator	Re: 49 JD A model, Help Please!! in reply to Just an Okie, 08-31-2012 07:17:37   I'm not sure if the hubs you're working on have forcing screw holes to push the wedges loose, but if they, the first and best thing you can and should do when trying to move ANY JD wheels with forcing screws for the wedges should be to chased ou the forcing screw hole threads and the forcing screw threads very well and make sure they're well-lubricated so that when you turn the forcing screws, you're actually using the force to push against the wedge vs. using the force trying overcome the friction or rusty, crusty threads. I've seen plenty of guys fight wheels to no end cranking on the forcing screws thinking the wedges were stuck when in fact all the torque was wasted in the threads. Good tension on well-lubed forcing threads and a couple sharp raps on the axle end with a sledge, followed by a little more tension and a couple more raps has knocked loose every set of wedges I've had to get loose on any size tractor. Minutes vs. hours or days. [Reply]  [No Email]
Bob Harvey 08-31-2012 14:31:42 209.91.107.195 Report to Moderator	Re: 49 JD A model, Help Please!! in reply to DEEREMEYER1, 08-31-2012 10:59:08   The hard part of removing the "forcing screws" is : they have a 'C' clip on the inside to keep them in place. [Reply]  [No Email]
F-I-T 08-31-2012 19:26:23 184.6.240.123 Report to Moderator	Re: 49 JD A model, Help Please!! in reply to Bob Harvey, 08-31-2012 14:31:42   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see But you guys are STILL confusing the "A" parts with the jack screws retained by "C" clips on the 50/60/70 rack and pinion design. The "A" used three bolts that you removed and then used two of those as jack screws, and those had no "C" clips. The parts books are free to download and easy to read. You are going to confuse this new guy and he'll wonder what it is he's allowed to use to remove the collar which he said he ALREADY HAD REMOVED. Geeez. [Reply]  [No Email]
Bob Harvey 09-01-2012 07:47:03 209.91.107.195 Report to Moderator	Re: 49 JD A model, Help Please!! in reply to F-I-T, 08-31-2012 19:26:23   My bad. [Reply]  [No Email]
donmyeil 08-31-2012 12:32:08 74.38.54.122 Report to Moderator	Re: 49 JD A model, Help Please!! in reply to DEEREMEYER1, 08-31-2012 10:59:08   Good advice but not for 49 "A". [Reply]  [No Email]
F-I-T 08-31-2012 12:29:58 66.87.129.136 Report to Moderator	Re: 49 JD A model, Help Please!! in reply to DEEREMEYER1, 08-31-2012 10:59:08   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see No wedges on an "A", right? Just a collar and collet hub, and he said he had the collar off. [Reply]  [No Email]
BushogPapa 08-31-2012 08:11:55 173.88.51.117 Report to Moderator	Re: 49 JD A model, Help Please!! in reply to Just an Okie, 08-31-2012 07:17:37   When we need to move the wheels in or out on our Late Styled JD "B" tractors..we first block the wheels not jacked up.. With one rear wheel raised, Rotate the raised wheel by Hand and operate the Brake..in both directions several times.. That has always worked (for us), to break the splines loose.. Penetrating oil IS your Friend..!! Do NOT leave a lot of oil on the axle splines or the wheel may tend to "work" in or out some.. As for actually "Moving" the wheel IN or OUT. We used a "Medium-sized" Chain, run thru two opposite wheel weight holes and caught on the implement attaching bolts on the axle housing.. To move the wheel "OUT", we used the same chain, thru the wheel weight holes, run out around "anything solid" (we looped it thru the drawbar of another tractor)..and wound the chain up and it would slide the wheel right out.. Some move easier than others..especially if they have not been moved and set outside for years..!! Ron [Reply]  [No Email]
JMS/.MN 08-31-2012 08:11:34 209.237.125.241 Report to Moderator	Re: 49 JD A model, Help Please!! in reply to Just an Okie, 08-31-2012 07:17:37   Will the one already loosened move in far enough for the tractor to fit on the trailer? Are the wheels already dished in? [Reply]  [No Email]
wisbaker 08-31-2012 07:44:10 184.157.223.164 Report to Moderator	Re: 49 JD A model, Help Please!! in reply to Just an Okie, 08-31-2012 07:17:37   Prayers, Patience and persistence the alternative method Lube, heat and beat, repeat until done. Search the archives in this board, some one fought one for almost two week to get it loose. Continue to spray penetrating oil on it, not WD-40 but real penetrating oil like Kroil or PB Blaster after soaking for an hour or so heat, give it some attention with a BFH, re-oil and start again. If it runs with the wheel loose drive around SLOWLY with someone watching the wheel, sometimes that'll work them loose. [Reply]  [No Email]