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lk 02-08-2010 18:41:11 205.237.134.2 353128 Report to Moderator	This fall i put a kats heater 1500 Watts i think, on my JD 4010, it is connected with the hoses. it works great and when i leave it plugged it over night the tractor is very warm and ready to go when cold. Then my electric bill came and it was very high, so ???????? Do i plug it in a short time before i need it? Or do i leave it plugged in and if so, is something wrong with mine to run up my elcetric bill? What should i expect to pay a month if plugged in??? Thanks for any help LK [Reply]   [No Email]
Farmer Devin 02-12-2010 09:45:37 12.189.32.36 353643 Report to Moderator	Re: Cost of a Kats 1500 watt tank heater to run. in reply to lk, 02-08-2010 18:41:11   I purchased the same Intermatic timer at Lowes. I'm 95% sure it was Lowes, if not then Home Depot.   [Reply]   [Send Email]
jdemaris 02-09-2010 07:00:52 67.142.130.39 353187 Report to Moderator	Get an HD mechanical timer in reply to lk, 02-08-2010 18:41:11   If you need to leave a tank heater plugged in all the time, having a good HD weatherproof timer is a must. Just set it to come on an hour before your normal start-up time. Do NOT buy an electronic unit - get a HD mechanical. The electronics don't last very long. I have some Intermatic mechanical units I've been using now for 20 years. $16 will get you a good HD mechanical 15 amp unit from Intermatic. I have a couple of them I use on block heaters and chicken-coop lights. "Intermatic # HB3IR. Heavy-duty outdoor timer with weatherproof cover. 2 ON/OFF settings per day. 15 amps. 12" cord and grounded plug. Controls pool pumps, security lighting, engine block heaters, holiday lights, and more. Trouble free in weather from -40 deg. F to 104 deg. F." http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/item/TMR-15/HEAVY-DUTY_OUTDOOR _TIMER/-/1.html   [Reply]   [Send Email]
John T 02-08-2010 19:51:39 71.55.31.109 353148 Report to Moderator	Re: Cost of a Kats 1500 watt tank heater to run. in reply to lk, 02-08-2010 18:41:11   Thats an awful lot to leave plugged in long term, Id use it maybe a few hours before it was needed depending on the ambient temperature and the condition of the tractor and its batteries. To know the cost of operation you need to know your KWH utility rate. If the heater is 1500 watts, thats 1.5 KW so for each hour its used thats 1.5 KWH. Now get your KWH rate and do the math, its NOT rocket science John T   [Reply]   [No Email]
buickanddeere 02-08-2010 19:05:44 209.240.117.112 353134 Report to Moderator	Re: Cost of a Kats 1500 watt tank heater to run. in reply to lk, 02-08-2010 18:41:11   A 1500W heater is for either very large engines or equipment exposed to wind etc. A 1500W heater on a 4010 is a quick warming device that has the engine ready to fire in 30 minutes to 2hrs depending. A 300W to 600W heater is what is used to let an engine simmer all night. The 1500W heater will use 1-1/2 Kw hrs of electricity per hour. If the utility electrical rate is 20 cents per hour. That heater will use $3.60 in electricity every 12hrs it's plugged in. These 1500W units work best with a timer set to warmup a couple of hours before use.   [Reply]   [No Email]
teddy52food 02-08-2010 19:02:13 209.237.115.177 353133 Report to Moderator	Re: Cost of a Kats 1500 watt tank heater to run. in reply to lk, 02-08-2010 18:41:11   You can figure it out. 1500 x the hours x the cost per kilowatt hour.   [Reply]   [No Email]
JD2ACWD 02-08-2010 18:54:05 69.4.113.95 353131 Report to Moderator	Re: Cost of a Kats 1500 watt tank heater to run. in reply to lk, 02-08-2010 18:41:11   I use to leave it plugged in all the time, my electric bill went up a 100 bucks a month,you can just plug them in for an hour or 2 and will be plenty warm enough.   [Reply]   [No Email]