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glieck 11-09-2009 11:59:10 69.53.42.140 342649 Report to Moderator	Did JD have two different color Green's. an early and a late shade of green? Is JD the best place to buy the paint? [Reply]   [Send Email]
gurneejoe 11-09-2009 17:49:39 205.188.117.12 342696 Report to Moderator	Re: John Deere Paint Colors in reply to glieck, 11-09-2009 11:59:10   I agree that there are many ways to skin a cat but my experience has been that JD paint is good quality. Maybe the technology is older but done right it looks really good and is pretty forgiving to maintain. My advice is to get the reducer matched to the temperature you are painting at. Wrong thinner and the paint will either dry too fast and orange peel or dry to slow and run for the barn. The 80/20 ratio was a little too lean for my day. It was more like 70/30. The 80/20 did orange peel. 70/30 was like glass. Paint on a cold day if outside. The bugs are like satan to a beautiful paint job.   [Reply]   [Send Email]
hojon_1 11-09-2009 17:11:26 96.35.20.1 342685 Report to Moderator	Re: John Deere Paint Colors in reply to glieck, 11-09-2009 11:59:10   I know of body shops that will use the JD White paint to paint trucks and cars so that by itself will tell you what they think of it. Valspar makes the thinner that the dealers I use have. JD makes a good quality paint and lasts a long time if done right. Some automotive paints look just as good if not better depending on what you use. Dupont and PPG come to mind and using the epoxy primer will seal your metal and keep air from getting to it. (Air on bare metal equals rust) Most of all it's your tractor so use what you want but if you test paint a small piece of metal you'll be able to determine what YOUR happy with.   [Reply]   [No Email]
patsdeere 11-09-2009 15:31:18 134.186.243.112 342675 Report to Moderator	Re: John Deere Paint Colors in reply to glieck, 11-09-2009 11:59:10   I got my green from JD and it went on fine. I used napa thinner and hardener and it came out looking like a mirror. While I don't leave mine out in the sun, it has seen some sun and it still looks great. The synthetic enamels are better than the alkyld enamels (which are the cheap crap you buy at the auto store). The synthetic will stand up to sun and chemical better, but not nearly as well as a polyurethane will. If it is going to live inside/out of the sun the JD paint will last forever. If you are going to leave it out in the sun/work it then you might consider upgrading to a more durable paint. Your tractor = your call.   [Reply]   [No Email]
alabamafrog 11-09-2009 15:22:10 24.178.95.11 342674 Report to Moderator	Re: John Deere Paint Colors in reply to glieck, 11-09-2009 11:59:10   To make it clear, I did not use enamel from the JD dealer. My local JD dealer is a horrible place to do business at and I have boycotted them as much as possible up to the point of driving 40 miles to the next nearest dealer when I can’t find it elsewhere. I used enamel paint from the local auto parts store for my first tractor. It was $40 a gallon not including the thinner and hardener and primer and stuff, probably around $150 for all the stuff. It went on good and looked great for about 2 months. By 4 months it had faded to an olive drab color. Now, a year later, it looks terrible, badly faded. I’m going to have to strip it down and do it over again. Admittedly this is not JD brand paint, it was Majic brand paint. The JD paint probably would last better but I’m figuring enamel is enamel and none of it has good old lead in it anymore. I used PPG base clear on my next two tractors and they have not faded at all but it was very costly (~$500) and harder to do. The worst thing about 2 part besides the expense is the difficulty in doing touch ups later on. Next time I plan to try urethane and see how that does (~300). I’m a novice at painting so I can only say what little I have experienced so far. This post was edited by alabamafrog at 15:26:51 11/09/09 2 times.   [Reply]   [No Email]
PBrowning 11-09-2009 16:27:22 70.115.255.111 342680 Report to Moderator	Re: John Deere Paint Colors in reply to alabamafrog, 11-09-2009 15:22:10   Your Last sentence convicts you! I too am by no means a painter, and as you will note, I do not give paint advice. I only tell of my experiences, and I must say -- I've been well treated by use of JD SE paint. I tried some others with equally great results. I appreciate you coming back to tell us that you used elcheapo on the job that pooped the bed. This, you see, puts things into perspective. Thank you. We are reminded -- in the end -- afterall, this IS farm tractor, and not a Cadillac Sedan! Oh well, let me get out of here on paint. (PatB)   [Reply]   [No Email]
alabamafrog 11-09-2009 14:22:55 24.178.95.11 342666 Report to Moderator	Re: John Deere Paint Colors in reply to glieck, 11-09-2009 11:59:10   The two colors are extremely similar, as for buying it at JD, if your happy using 100 year old paint technology, namely enamel, then yea JD is a good place to get it. If you plan to let the sun hit the paint and you want it to stay the same color of green for more than a year or two then you may want to consider a quality urethane with epoxy primer under it. Probably talking around $200 difference in materials cost but it is definitely worth it in my opinion. 95% of a paint job is the prep work, it’s a shame to do all that work and have it fade out on you, been there and done that once already. It sucks to have to redo a tractor you just redone last year.   [Reply]   [No Email]
PBrowning 11-09-2009 14:34:14 70.115.255.111 342669 Report to Moderator	Re: John Deere Paint Colors in reply to alabamafrog, 11-09-2009 14:22:55   I think you are over-playing the fade of JD synthetic enamel. If you know of someone who had to repaint after one year, the initial application wasn't done right. It wasn't the paint! Besides, how many folks do you know who restore a tractor and then store it out in the elements? I don't paint anymore, and so I don't have a dog in this hunt. I just think its time to give JD paint an even break in on-line discussions. (PatB) Restoration Site, JD H   [Reply]   [No Email]
Jason R 11-09-2009 12:07:30 65.206.123.102 342652 Report to Moderator	Re: John Deere Paint Colors in reply to glieck, 11-09-2009 11:59:10   yes and yes classic green 1959 back and current ag green 1960 to present. i have had awesome finishes with classic green jd thinner and the valspar hardener the local dealer sells. 8 parts paint 2 parts thinner 1 part hardener.   [Reply]   [No Email]
Meangreen 11-10-2009 10:16:58 98.188.136.151 342765 Report to Moderator	Re: John Deere Paint Colors in reply to Jason R, 11-09-2009 12:07:30   Some of the research I have done on John Deere paint is that back in the day John Deere used several diffrent manufacturers to make their own paint and so you will find various shades of green on the older tractors and then once John Deere began producing their own paint it has remained the current AG Green. JD created the "Classic Green" because it seemed to blend well with the paint on the older tractors. I believe I read the info on retiredtractors.com. Also I have a buddy who uses JD black a lot on frames for hot rods he is building.   [Reply]   [No Email]
glieck 11-10-2009 10:11:48 69.53.42.140 342764 Report to Moderator	Re: John Deere Paint Colors in reply to Jason R, 11-09-2009 12:07:30   How much difference is there between Ag Green and Classic Green, none of the JD dealers down here have the classic green. Which doesn"t suprise me, Tractor City owns the closest 10 stores around me, and they don"t keep much in stock.   [Reply]   [Send Email]
Meangreen 11-10-2009 10:19:07 98.188.136.151 342766 Report to Moderator	Re: John Deere Paint Colors in reply to glieck, 11-10-2009 10:11:48   They are pretty close, but the classic is a little darker and has a little more of a yellow tint to it.   [Reply]   [No Email]