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Topic: Clutch pulley removal 1949 JDA
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| Richard Nowak
11-02-2009 04:27:22
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Got a 1949 jda tractor and i can t remove clutch fork. Only comes out about 1 half inch Inside the pulley, the part that the bronze fork rides in has to be frozen, it doesn t slide at all. The clutch is all taken apart, and the bolts are free. Any ideas without breaking anything? Thanks Rick |
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| primerk5
11-03-2009 06:38:24
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Re: Clutch pulley removal 1949 JDA in reply to Richard Nowak, 11-02-2009 04:27:22
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| Sounds like the same problem that I just had with my 48 A. It sounds as if your clutch is not fully disengauged. If its not, the fork will hit on the inside of the reduction gear cover and you'll never get it out. The fork slides into a groove of the operating sleeve. When you push the clutch lever, the fork pushes on the operating sleeve. The op Sleeve pushes on a dog assembly that then squeezes the belt pulley to the drive disk.
On my tractor you can look through the fill pipe in the reduction cover and see the fork going into the operating sleeve. If the operating sleeve is not against the belt pully's gear than you probably won't be able to get the fork/pillowblock out. You may be able to get the op sleeve close to the gear and get it out but, its a safe bet if the op sleeve is against the gear then it should come out with no problem.
My Belt pulley would not turn at all. The operating sleeve had become rusted fast to the dust sheild in the reduction cover. I ended removing the reduction cover with the belt pulley attached.(heavy, really heavy) I then had to heat on the inside edge of the dust shield to get the operating sleeve to move. as soon as I got it free the fork/pillow block came right out. BTW. You won't be getting this off with the wheel and tire on the tractor. I got lucky since my tire is flat. I just jacked up tractor and rotated the flat spot to the pulley and I had just enough room to get it off.
You will also have to disassemble the clutch assy and pull the drive disk to do the above if that is your problem.
The suggestion from johns48jdb to drill a hole in the reduction cover is a good one. They started doing this from the factory in later models. When I in bolted my reduction cover I probably got more than a quart of water out of it. I still don't know how it got in there. I will be doing this to mine before I put it back on the tractor.
If you have more questions just reply. It really sounds as if you have the same problem I had. You may want to get the free copy of the parts catalog that you can get from JDparts.com. Its really helpfull in seeing all the parts that make up the clutch assembly and belt pully assembly. Then you can print out the pages you need when you need them.
Good Luck
This post was edited by primerk5 at 06:42:14 11/03/09 2 times. |
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| johns48jdb
11-03-2009 14:34:49
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Re: Clutch pulley removal 1949 JDA in reply to primerk5, 11-03-2009 06:38:24
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| i had water in my 48 b too. nearly every one yhou take off without the drain plug will have water in it. drilling holes for filling and draining is a little tricky. you need to locate the fill hole back far enough toward thee tranny to where you want end up on top of the frg. the drain plug actually comes out from the side and not the bottom, at least factor done ones are that way. look at late 51 or up tractors to see how the factor did it. the only thing is to reuse your frg cover you can't use a plug bigger than 3/8 pipe threads. the metal is to thin to make a place for very many threads. if you don't have a lot of threads you stand a chance of leaks. you'll wantg to replace the bearing and the bronze busing in the pulley assy while your into this. also see that the spring supporting the forks is there and not rusted into. the forks need to slide freeely on the splines that they are mounted around. you'll see when you get into it. |
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| johns48jdb
11-02-2009 17:25:18
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Re: Clutch pulley removal 1949 JDA in reply to Richard Nowak, 11-02-2009 04:27:22
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| you need to just pick up on the bottom of the clutch shift mechasium and pull it out. it can't be frozen in place. is everything in there dry. if so you need to put in plugs to add oil to the frg cover to fill the well in the cover and one to drain it. there has been alot said here about how to do that so do a search on frg cover. you need to remove the clutch driver before you can move the pulley assy. it needs to be sticking out paat the end of the crank, if not you've got bigger problems. notice that it has "v's" to line up when you get ready to go back up. feel free to em me if you like or need to talk this over. |
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| Wilamayb
11-02-2009 10:53:46
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Re: Clutch pulley removal 1949 JDA in reply to Richard Nowak, 11-02-2009 04:27:22
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| | I take it that you did already remove all the clutch discs? If not it is possible that the clutch is engaged. If you did remove the clutch discs and still cant get the operating sleeve to move then you'll have to go further. If in fact you cant get the operating sleeve to move then you will have to remove the reduction cover and pulley together, allowing you to work on geetting that sleeve freed up. You will have to remove the clutch driver before you remove the reduction cover. You will need to fabricate a puller out of two pieces of all thread and a thick piece of flat steel with notches cut for your all thread to pass through to pull the driver.
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