(quoted from post at 18:14:45 03/20/09) A clue to what? I neverhad to put up with the two cylinder era so when John Deere finaly produced something modern I wasn't all that impressed. Kinda like the kid that was "held back" in 1st grade so he would be "ahead" of his classmates.
(quoted from post at 10:46:31 03/20/09)(quoted from post at 18:14:45 03/20/09) A clue to what? I neverhad to put up with the two cylinder era so when John Deere finaly produced something modern I wasn't all that impressed. Kinda like the kid that was "held back" in 1st grade so he would be "ahead" of his classmates.
John Deere ALWAYS produced something modern.
What made the Farmall super M better then a old M? Oh lets see a little more horse power, and that's all.
(quoted from post at 11:25:19 03/20/09) Catch-up? Show me a Farmall with decent live hydraulics and a rockshaft/three point hitch.
The 60 have live pto, live hydraulics, remote hydraulic outlets, hydraulic rockshaft,power steering, six speeds etc.
Where is that great and mighty manufacture "Farmall" today? They went bust and were bought out.
How is it a foot clutch and four cylinders are an advantage in that class of tractor? I don't see M's with loaders mounted on them. They were just a drawbar tractor.
(quoted from post at 19:12:51 03/20/09)(quoted from post at 10:46:31 03/20/09)(quoted from post at 18:14:45 03/20/09) A clue to what? I neverhad to put up with the two cylinder era so when John Deere finaly produced something modern I wasn't all that impressed. Kinda like the kid that was "held back" in 1st grade so he would be "ahead" of his classmates.
John Deere ALWAYS produced something modern.
What made the Farmall super M better then a old M? Oh lets see a little more horse power, and that's all.
Yep, you're right. The super M wasn't that much better than a regular ol' M. But then the super M was introduced in 1952, and about that same time was when John Deere introduced the 60, which replaced the A. What made the 60 any better than the A? A little more horsepower perhaps? At least the M had a four cylinder engine, and a foot operated clutch, and the M was introduced in 1939. It took John Deere 22 years to catch up to that technology.
(quoted from post at 02:41:10 03/21/09) Seems to me the first rear rock shaft was a Farmall, not Ford or Deere. Ferguson took the IH rock shaft and made the 3-point hitch. Those old Deeres (A and B through the 420 etc.) were somewhat uncomfortable to operate with the straight steering wheel. You have to say that in modern times, (Since DR. James Ruff went to JD in the mid 70's), that JD has vastly improved ergonomics.
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