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d beatty 09-04-2012 23:16:57 24.12.128.253 Report to Moderator	Has anybody out there ever tried useing the flat belting for a large baler to drive a tractor mounted buzz saw? If so did it work and did the belt hold up? [Reply]   [No Email]
Kevin Little 09-07-2012 09:42:38 64.203.147.111 Report to Moderator	Re: Flat Belting in reply to d beatty, 09-04-2012 23:16:57   I saw that Leroy. I have a foot treadle scroll saw I need to get some of that for. [Reply]  [No Email]
Tim(nj) 09-06-2012 18:01:40 67.237.2.242 Report to Moderator	Re: Flat Belting in reply to d beatty, 09-04-2012 23:16:57   Look here. rubberized canvas flat belts [Reply]  [No Email]
Leroy 09-07-2012 06:52:14 69.88.205.38 Report to Moderator	Re: Flat Belting in reply to Tim(nj), 09-06-2012 18:01:40   That round leather belt is what I need on my antique (99 year old) treadle sowing machune that Grandma bought new in 1913. [Reply]  [No Email]
d beatty 09-06-2012 20:50:49 24.12.128.253 Report to Moderator	Re: Flat Belting in reply to Tim(nj), 09-06-2012 18:01:40   Tim Ijust made one up out baler belting. It seem to work ok but time will tell if it will hold up. If it doesn't I will have those folks at Hit & miss make me up one. Thanks Dwight [Reply]  [No Email]
gbs 09-05-2012 19:29:31 68.115.197.190 Report to Moderator	Re: Flat Belting in reply to d beatty, 09-04-2012 23:16:57   i won't say it's the right type and so on but i've use baler and tobacco harvester flat belting in the place of old style flat belting worked ok for me [Reply]  [No Email]
kevinj54 09-05-2012 11:33:09 99.39.189.166 Report to Moderator	Re: Flat Belting in reply to Stan - Florida, 09-04-2012 23:16:57   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see Around here any good industrial supply has flat belting. [Reply]  [No Email]
Crazy Red Power in SE-WI 09-05-2012 11:28:27 68.114.237.14 Report to Moderator	Re: Flat Belting in reply to d beatty, 09-04-2012 23:16:57   I don't know how long they will last, but you should be able to get a couple seasons out of one. Always use the smooth or at least smoothest side of the baler belt on the pulley faces. Also, a rubberized belt gets a little bit more slack than a canvas or duck belt. Mike [Reply]  [No Email]
d beatty 09-05-2012 12:32:58 24.12.128.253 Report to Moderator	Re: Flat Belting in reply to Crazy Red Power in SE-WI, 09-05-2012 11:28:27   Mike thats what I want to know Will it drive it and hold up. The saw is mounted on the back of Farmall B and has been driven with a canvas belt for 50 years. I can find rubber belts all over but the old canvas belts are hard to come by. [Reply]  [No Email]
Leroy 09-06-2012 17:33:51 69.88.205.38 Report to Moderator	Re: Flat Belting in reply to d beatty, 09-05-2012 12:32:58   You should be using a rubber belt any ways like is made for a hammer mill, they will not split like the canvas ones will on small pullys and even large pullys the canvas does not like to form around the pullys. The baler belts I have never been around but a good rubber belt is one direction only to run and they are so marked. [Reply]  [No Email]
d beatty 09-06-2012 18:06:42 24.12.128.253 Report to Moderator	Re: Flat Belting in reply to Leroy, 09-06-2012 17:33:51   The canvas belt that I am replacing on this saw has been on it for 50 years and it was a used belt when it was put on. The tractor and saw have never set out and the belt started getting bad a little over a year ago. I think it served its purpose well. When I was kid a lot of our equipment was run with flat canvas belts and never saw one come apart but they would jump off a pulley ever now and then. [Reply]  [No Email]
Crazy Red Power in SE-WI 09-05-2012 16:11:20 68.114.237.14 Report to Moderator	Re: Flat Belting in reply to d beatty, 09-05-2012 12:32:58   I had a thought... If there's a tractor club or thresheree in your neck of the woods, try there. It dosen't sound like you need a whole lot of 6" belt & such places may have some shorter lengths that they might not be able to use on anything. Worth a shot, anyhow. Otherwise, baler belting should hold up for a while. When I was down at the dealership, earlier, the general consensus is the belt on a buzz saw, running on a small tractor, may live a charmed life compared to 100+ hp in a bale chamber. Good luck! Mike [Reply]  [No Email]
jbp 09-05-2012 08:23:56 64.57.160.72 Report to Moderator	Re: Flat Belting in reply to d beatty, 09-04-2012 23:16:57   Don't see why it won't work OK. Been using used baler belting to pull my sorghum mill for several years with no problems. Its powered by a 5 horsepower IH LB engine. I do quirt a little liquid belt dressing on the belt after startup each morning. A cut off saw doesn't pull much harder than a sorghum mill. Joe [Reply]  [No Email]
jackinok 09-05-2012 06:44:28 162.58.82.136 Report to Moderator	Re: Flat Belting in reply to d beatty, 09-04-2012 23:16:57   Might turn it. but real flat belting is a whole different deal. its made out of a clutch type material that can handle a certain amount of slippage. sort of like the difference between the drive belts on your riding mower and the drive belts on your mower blades. imagine a threshing machine running off a twenty foot belt,if something hangs in the machine and belt doesnt slip where is that belt going to go? you need that clutching action on a setup like that. baler belts on the other hand are made NOT to slip if they do you cant roll up a bale. ever notice how when guys run a flat belt the belt is always loose? its the friction of the wide belts that make it work,the wider the belt the more hp it can handle. a rubber belt is not like this,it has to be tight.any slippage and it burns,or glazes over and losses its effectiveness.your wood saw will work much better and safer with real flat belting designed for that purpose.if it doesnt slip and it hangs youll either rip your saw right out of the ground,or it will climb right into the tractor seat if its a three point type. like i say it may turn it ,but theres a difference in one that runs and one that runs properly and safely. [Reply]  [No Email]
d beatty 09-05-2012 07:41:39 24.12.128.253 Report to Moderator	Re: Flat Belting in reply to jackinok, 09-05-2012 06:44:28   Jackinok This buzzsaw is mounted ridge to a Farmall B. It is mounted on the U drawbar and the two brackets that the plow hung from. It has another bracket bolted to the top of transmission housing. We have a hitch on the buzz saw that we pull from its heavy enough to pull anything this tractor can handle. The saw was originally on a trailer and powered be a VE 4 Wisconsin engine and driven with 6v belts. [Reply]  [No Email]
jackinok 09-05-2012 11:09:38 162.58.82.136 Report to Moderator	Re: Flat Belting in reply to d beatty, 09-05-2012 07:41:39   a vbelt and a flat belt a two different animals,what is going to happen when that saw hangs is what you have to worry about.a flat belt MAY come off and go about anywhere.v belts dont normaly come off. try the belting from a baler if you choose to but its not the same.In MY opinion,if you get it tight enough not to slip,when and if that saw binds somethings going to give up.and the added stress on bearings from being that tight will cause problems. hopefully it will just throw the belt.might work great also,i was just pointing out the differences. [Reply]  [No Email]
d beatty 09-05-2012 12:19:05 24.12.128.253 Report to Moderator	Re: Flat Belting in reply to jackinok, 09-05-2012 11:09:38   jackinok the saw has been on the Farmall B for over 50 years and has been driven with a canvas 6" wide belt. The saw turns on two 4" bronz bearings with oil cups. We do have shields and has throwen belt a few time and the way its set up the belt drops off and it comes to a stop. The belt on the buzz saw does not need to be supper tight. What I want to know is will the baler belt drive the saw and hold up like the canvas belt? Thank you for your reply and concerns about safety.Iam tring to learn how to take pictures off camera and put them on here. I think it helps you guys sometimes in under standing what we are talking about. [Reply]  [No Email]
jackinok 09-05-2012 13:43:26 162.58.82.136 Report to Moderator	Re: Flat Belting in reply to d beatty, 09-05-2012 12:19:05   might work for you,i think they would slip too bad unless you tightened them way tight. but thats my opinion. [Reply]  [No Email]
JOB 09-05-2012 03:44:20 74.36.134.5 Report to Moderator	Re: Flat Belting in reply to d beatty, 09-04-2012 23:16:57   Flat belts were used on buzz saws since way before my time. My uncle had one on his H farmall. He used a pulley hanging above the drive pulley as a belt tensioner. Cut a lot of wood with that saw. He used a 5" or maybe a 6" belt. [Reply]  [No Email]
d beatty 09-05-2012 07:54:32 24.12.128.253 Report to Moderator	Re: Flat Belting in reply to JOB, 09-05-2012 03:44:20   JOB the saw had a 6" flat belt on it but the belt is going bad. The belt that is on it now is over 50 years old and getting unsafe to use. It's hard to find the old style belting and was wondering if the new baler belting would work. [Reply]  [No Email]
d beatty 09-05-2012 07:54:32 24.12.128.253 Report to Moderator	Re: Flat Belting in reply to JOB, 09-05-2012 03:44:20   JOB the saw had a 6" flat belt on it but the belt is going bad. The belt that is on it now is over 50 years old and getting unsafe to use. It's hard to find the old style belting and was wondering if the new baler belting would work. [Reply]  [No Email]