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Finnbair2020 08-10-2012 06:17:35 64.223.168.227 Report to Moderator	I'm going today to look at a Case/IH 8430 round baler. I hope to run this behind my Oliver 770. The owner, who I know, says that the twine cutter doesn't work. I've read on this forum that this is maybe not an uncommon problem on this baler-- easy fix? He also says that it will not start bales in bone dry hay-- overly dry hay is usually not a problem where I live-- this year is an exception. Are these two problems with this baler something that can be overcome easily enough? Other comments on this baler? He's asking $4800 [Reply]   [No Email]
Diydave 08-12-2012 04:28:40 96.244.152.249 Report to Moderator	Re: Case 8430 baler in reply to Finnbair2020, 08-10-2012 06:17:35   I have an older hesston 5530. Twine knife is an easy fix, parts are cheap and available. Pickup problems can be from missing teeth, bent pickup teeth bars, old and worn belts, and operator error. Another point to consider, is does your tractor have a remote, 2 way hyd outlet. Needs down pressure, to latch tailgate door. Price sounds about a grand rich, if it is in otherwise good shape. Check those tooth bars, the way to check, is to stand to the right side of baler, facing forward, look to your left, and see if the tooth tips line up straight. if there is a belly, in the middle, the bar is bent. Ground hog holes and plow ridges play hell on those bars. Can be re-bent, with a come-a-long, hooked to the rear door. Good luck [Reply]  [No Email]
Wi Tom 08-10-2012 20:15:34 64.77.207.206 Report to Moderator	Re: Case 8430 baler in reply to Finnbair2020, 08-10-2012 06:17:35   Mine was not tying well, a new knife cured the problem, cheap fix. I have never had a problem starting bales, go slow at first then up to speed after the bale starts. Mine works great. Price does seem about 1500 too high, at least around here. [Reply]  [No Email]
JWalker 08-10-2012 10:07:51 66.153.201.236 Report to Moderator	Re: Case 8430 baler in reply to Finnbair2020, 08-10-2012 06:17:35   I have a Hesston 530, I think it is the sames bailer. I usually bale around 750-1000 bales a year with mine. There are some tricks that you will learn if you buy the bailer. IF you take out the "small hay bar" and have at least 2/3s of the pick up fingers on the pick up it will start a bale in almost anything. I have baled bermuda, bahia, corn stalks and sorghum/suddan grass. I do sometimes have trouble with the twine cutter, but I would not hesitate to buy another one. The price I cannot comment on because that varies by market. If you have any other questions my email is open. [Reply]  [No Email]
Ken Macfarlane 08-10-2012 07:53:59 142.166.168.2 Report to Moderator	Re: Case 8430 baler in reply to Finnbair2020, 08-10-2012 06:17:35   We used one for a few years. I cleaned a lot of hay out of it and got off to cut twine a lot. Things I learned: -Keep twine knife sharp and adjusted -First bale of the season, if you can get it started ok, let it spin and polish the bale chamber for several minutes before moving on. -Start a bale slow and let it tumble a bit, as soon as it is turning, walk the hay to her. -Don't run the pickup low as the first time it hits the ground and stalls in a heavy windrow your pickup is plugged. -When unplugging the pickup, its way faster to kick out whats in the chamber and push the blockage out from the chamber instead of pulling it from the pickup side. Its a good size little baler on a small tractor, we ran it on 45 pto hp in some hills. Makes tight bales. They are small though, I hated all the time spent tying bales, then picking them all up. Double spear is a must, anything can carry two bales from it. You can roll them by hand too. [Reply]  [No Email]
JDseller 08-10-2012 07:10:26 208.126.196.144 Report to Moderator	Re: Case 8430 baler in reply to Finnbair2020, 08-10-2012 06:17:35   Those balers are not very popular around here. The problems are common and they are NOT easy to fix. The bale starting issue is always an issue with them. The twine cutting is more than likely just a knife that is dull or a twine stop not working. The bigger issue is that they just don't bale very good. They have a hard time starting bales unless the hay is in perfect shape. The biggest issue I see with the one you are talking about is price. That is way high for one of them around here. Maybe double what it will bring here. $2500-3500 is more in the range around here. Even then they are not a fast seller at any price. [Reply]  [No Email]
Ron-MO 08-10-2012 06:57:56 63.87.140.3 Report to Moderator	Re: Case 8430 baler in reply to Finnbair2020, 08-10-2012 06:17:35   I had a Hesston 530 which is either same or similar baler. I only owned for one season and sold it. Issues I had were what you mentioned - hard to start a bale, and end up laying on your back unplugging. Small bales make for a LOT of stopped tying. Small bales hard in this area to sell, and hard to stab and end up pushing around the field until you get used to them. Also, a very narrow pickup often spills hay out the sides. I sold mine and drug out my old NH 850 chain baler and still using it which is quite the opposite and if I can drive over it - it will bale it. Only complaint with 850 is somewhat loose bales, but no problems selling the bales so far, and no more waste than the little Hesston. [Reply]  [No Email]