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Cyclone71 07-22-2012 15:57:36 70.41.32.58 Report to Moderator	I have a NH 271 that I have had for 4 years, baled okay until this weekend. Used it last weekend worked okay. It will bale 4-5 bales and then won"t tie the right string. I have adjusted twine tension and bale tension, still won"t tie the right string. Appears that the twine in under the bill hook. Any thoughts? Thanks [Reply]   [No Email]
cyclone71 07-24-2012 09:42:32 70.182.215.146 Report to Moderator	Re: HN 271 Knotter problem in reply to Cyclone71, 07-22-2012 15:57:36   Gentlemen-thanks for all the suggestions/recomendations. I have always used the same twine in this baler, bought from the same farm store, local feed store. Talked to the manager there yesterday, said switch balls and see if that fixes the issue. Sure enough, darn thing ties anything it"s fed into the baler. It"s the simple things that make you go crazy! Have a great one eveyone and stay cool! [Reply]  [No Email]
JDseller 07-23-2012 07:29:26 208.126.196.144 Report to Moderator	Re: HN 271 Knotter problem in reply to Cyclone71, 07-22-2012 15:57:36   Cyclone71 it sounds like the twine finger or tucker finger on the right side is missing the twine. Trip the knotter and roll the needle up BY HAND. When the needle tip is right at the twine disk stop. Then look down at the top of the bale chamber. The tucker finger lays flat on the top of the chamber. The tip should just miss the needle as the finger rotates. The tucker finger holds the twine back so twine wraps the billhook. If it misses the twine then the bill hook will only have one side in the bill and many times will just drop it. To make OLD happy!!! LOL Look at the knots that are tied on the good bales. Are the tails clean cut or are they frayed??? If they are clean cut then the knife is fine AND NOT causing your problem!!! If they are frayed then rotate the knotter frame up. Sharpen them with a good small file or emery cloth over a small flat piece of metal. Still We really need to see the twine that is on the bales that are not tied. If it is tyeing and skipping then there is a twine on the bale that is not tied. By looking at the ends on the missed bale, that should have a knot on them, we can tell what is not happening most of the time. Just telling us that the twine is under the bill hook is not really that helpful. Remember you are asking US to help YOU to fix YOUR knotter. So arguing with us that we don't need to see the missed twine it not real cool. [Reply]  [No Email]
cyclone71 07-24-2012 09:49:07 70.182.215.146 Report to Moderator	Re: HN 271 Knotter problem in reply to JDseller, 07-23-2012 07:29:26   I appreciate your comments, unfortunately, not all of us are experts like yourself, You have a great day. [Reply]  [No Email]
JDseller 07-22-2012 20:05:21 208.126.196.144 Report to Moderator	Re: HN 271 Knotter problem in reply to Cyclone71, 07-22-2012 15:57:36   Shot us a picture of what the "bad" knot or string looks like. You did not say if the knot was tied and hanging on the bill hook or if it was not tied at all. We need more information to help much. ALSO DON"T just tighten the darn bill hook tension!!!! That is rarely the problem. It just is easy to do so guys crank them down. That can cause real problems with the knotter. [Reply]  [No Email]
cyclone71 07-23-2012 04:33:58 67.54.176.53 Report to Moderator	Re: NH 271 Knotter problem in reply to JDseller, 07-22-2012 20:05:21   The knotter doesn"t tie the right string, it"s cut just not tied. Also when it doesn"t tie seem the twine in under the bill hook not on top of the hook. [Reply]  [No Email]
old 07-22-2012 20:18:07 209.86.226.19 Report to Moderator	Re: HN 271 Knotter problem in reply to JDseller, 07-22-2012 20:05:21   Ya adjustments do not just change but things like the twine knife getting dull does in fact happen and is a very common problem at least on my 271 [Reply]  [No Email]
old 07-22-2012 19:45:02 209.86.226.19 Report to Moderator	Re: HN 271 Knotter problem in reply to Cyclone71, 07-22-2012 15:57:36   I also run a 271 and I will bet your twine knife is dull BTDT and I sharpen up the twine knife and all was well again [Reply]  [No Email]
GordoSD 07-22-2012 19:25:32 64.33.250.162 Report to Moderator	Re: HN 271 Knotter problem in reply to Cyclone71, 07-22-2012 15:57:36   Do you have a manual? The manual has atrouble shooting section that details the 5-6 different failure modes of the knotters. Are you finding bales strings hanging on the billhooks? [Reply]  [No Email]
Cyclone71 07-22-2012 19:37:16 67.54.176.39 Report to Moderator	Re: HN 271 Knotter problem in reply to GordoSD, 07-22-2012 19:25:32   yes, I have a manual. Bill hook maybe the issue, too loose? But why does it bale 4-5 okay and then won't tie the right side? [Reply]  [No Email]
GAN 07-22-2012 18:40:28 207.204.220.226 Report to Moderator	Re: HN 271 Knotter problem in reply to Cyclone71, 07-22-2012 15:57:36   check that the hay dogs are free and working properly, also that the springs on them are not broken. [Reply]  [No Email]
Bill Lisbon 07-22-2012 17:23:49 69.89.162.210 Report to Moderator	Re: HN 271 Knotter problem in reply to Cyclone71, 07-22-2012 15:57:36   Check to see if the fingers that draw the twine into the knotter is working, sometimes the spring that holds tension on them breaks. [Reply]  [No Email]
Cyclone71 07-22-2012 17:34:20 67.54.176.53 Report to Moderator	Re: HN 271 Knotter problem in reply to Bill Lisbon, 07-22-2012 17:23:49   It does 4 or 5 bales correctly and then will not tie the right string on the next 3. [Reply]  [No Email]