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Implement Alley Discussion Board

Topic: Vermeer 504Super I
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BigMarvinGa

11-06-2009 17:28:48
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Went to start baling hay this morning and after lubing and oil chains, I heard a poping noise at the top of the baler. Found the upper drive roller on the drive end with ball bearings coming from the bearing flange. after driving 2 hours to get a new one, the dealer told me that I need to replace the whole upper drive roller with 1 1/2 bearings and a 4 hole bearing flange. He said later models went to a 1 1/2 instead of the 1 1/4. Anyone aware of this ?

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Hay DR

11-13-2009 06:50:17
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Re: Vermeer 504Super I in reply to BigMarvinGa, 11-06-2009 17:28:48  
Yes the Super I balers did go to the 1 1/2" upper drive rollers but realize your 504I is around 20 years old or older. The 1.25" system has lasted this long so unless you are custom baling I'd go back with the 1.25". Has the shaft been damaged? If not go back with the a wide inner-race 1.25" bearing. If the shaft has been damaged is the shaft welded in the roller or is the shaft secured with SDS hubs?

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tn terry t

11-08-2009 18:27:00
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Re: Vermeer 504Super I in reply to Sid, 11-06-2009 17:28:48  
hey thanks man! this is my first vermeer roller my others were a freebee 851NH that replaced the 848 NH that was blown away during a tornado a few yrs ago

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tn terry t

11-08-2009 17:14:52
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Re: Vermeer 504Super I in reply to BigMarvinGa, 11-06-2009 17:28:48  
hey guys wats the diff in the I and the super? i took the roller out of mine yesterday morning. the shaft is worn down 1/4 or more. my roller is a super I 504 it has the two springs on both sides and the 4bolt flange bearing1 1/2 dia. will be sending it to a machine shop monday $440 plus bearings for a new one :( OUCH!!!

This post was edited by tn terry t at 17:16:45 11/08/09.

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KEH

11-08-2009 17:35:51
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Re: Vermeer 504Super I in reply to tn terry t, 11-08-2009 17:14:52  


Terry.
The plain I Is not as heavy in the shaft and bearing area. The Super I has a piece of steel plate over the side frame where the drive roller goes through at the bottom. They must have some heavier shafts too. The plain I does not have this. There are probably some more reinforcements I'm not familiar with.

Some Super I's have a hydraulic cylinder to add bale tension on the side in place of one of the springs. I'm told it makes much tighter bales.

KEH

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KEH

11-06-2009 17:48:07
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Re: Vermeer 504Super I in reply to BigMarvinGa, 11-06-2009 17:28:48  

The upper drive roller is the weak point on those balers. I have a 505I, not SuperI, and I had to replace the upper roller. I would get the bigger roller if possible.

I'm sure you are aware that there are 2 SuperIs', one with an extra spring at the bottom and the later one with hydraulic tensioner. Don't know when the bigger upper roller came in.

KEH

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