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scottd 06-05-2009 15:30:33 69.19.14.17 17324 Report to Moderator	I was recently given a 5000 super major that had sat in a field for 3 years. got it running, now looking to put it back to specs after 40+ years of "coathanger" repairs. trying to figure out what year it was made, can't find a s/n tag. may have been one on the hyd.lift cover, on rear,between pto shaft and seat...If so, it's gone now.From what i've read it's between 61-64, but most sites say they have a blue body w/gray wheels and fenders. Mine has a blue body, blue hood w/"Ford5000" decals,white wheels,(if they're gray,it's VERY light gray). Fenders are missing-rusted off at the bracket... "ENFO" cast into all cast parts,"Fordson Super Major" chrome medallion on front, and external headlamps on each side of the radiator,about 1/2way up (not high up on the front cap like some photos I've seen). There's a milled flat just below the #1 injector, but no # stamped on it. Behind the generator,"N2X" is cast into the block.Saw a pic of one similar to mine that said it was a 62, but the lites were in the grille, not external like mine. Thanks in advance for any replies. [Reply]   [Send Email]
Bendee 06-14-2009 02:23:44 124.254.66.130 17363 Report to Moderator	Re: Ford 5000/super major-can't pinpoint exact year model in reply to scottd, 06-05-2009 15:30:33   If there is not a number on the pad then look on the flange of the flywheel housing near the starter mounting[where the engine and gear box are bolted-uppermost part] because the pad was used from number 1380939. "enfo" is english ford so it maybe imported. It has the same front as my Fordson Major. Instrument panel same as my Super Major. But none of mine has a bent gear stick.   [Reply]   [No Email]
Dandy Dave 06-10-2009 05:32:45 65.219.212.239 17349 Report to Moderator	Re: Ford 5000/super major-can't pinpoint exact year model in reply to scottd, 06-05-2009 15:30:33   Another thing that came up recently in discussion was that the mark II engines have a Breather on the timing cover just in front of the injection pump drive that the earlier units do not have. The Power Major should have it. Go to this link and look though it, part way down you will see the discussion on the breather. http://www.fordsontractorpages.nl/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=712 Dandy Dave!   [Reply]   [No Email]
Dandy Dave 06-10-2009 04:56:31 65.219.212.239 17348 Report to Moderator	Re: Ford 5000/super major-can't pinpoint exact year model in reply to scottd, 06-05-2009 15:30:33   Should be a lever toward the front lower part of the seat that will allow it to be fliped in the high position if is the correct power major seat. The Power Majors came with a mark II engine. Also, get on board with the Fordson Tractor Pages group there is also a lot of knowledge over there, as well as here, and they have all the serial number breaks of when the different engines when into production. They can tell you some of the differences. I know that there is a bunch of differences in the valve train though the years. I've been working on a road project with my Power Major fitted with a york rake. My tractor has a lot of options and it runs and works great. When I first got it, I assumed they all had these things, but I have found out that they do not. Dandy Dave!   [Reply]   [No Email]
KFD68 06-10-2009 00:37:16 86.167.182.128 17347 Report to Moderator	Re: Ford 5000/super major-can't pinpoint exact year model in reply to scottd, 06-05-2009 15:30:33   Looking at the photos, that definately is a POWER MAJOR. It has the cranked main gear lever, and the deep back seat which tips forward, and the headlight in the lower hole on the side of the front cowl. The downswept exhaust pipe [from the manifold] is not original, different curve & shape to original. He has got a nice tractor   [Reply]   [No Email]
KFD68 06-10-2009 00:30:50 86.167.182.128 17346 Report to Moderator	Re: Ford 5000/super major-can't pinpoint exact year model in reply to scottd, 06-05-2009 15:30:33   quote from tyresntracks:- Your list shows X as the year code for 1955, doesn't it? I don't want to give scottd conflicting information ;) Yes - my list shows X as 1955, but from the original post I didnt think the tractor may have an earlier engine as a replacement. The blank serial number on the block sort of threw me in the direction of a factory/dealer rebuilt engine. When replacement rebuilt engines were fitted by British dealers on N & E27N, the dealer was supposed to remove the original number and stamp a different number begining with X on the rear engine flange.   [Reply]   [No Email]
Dandy Dave 06-09-2009 06:04:16 65.219.212.239 17343 Report to Moderator	Re: Ford 5000/super major-can't pinpoint exact year model in reply to scottd, 06-05-2009 15:30:33   Here is a link to the post I was refering to. It is on The Fordson Tractor Pages. Not this site. Dandy Dave! http://www.fordsontractorpages.nl/phpbb2/viewforum.php?f=2   [Reply]   [No Email]
Dandy Dave 06-09-2009 05:37:34 65.219.212.239 17341 Report to Moderator	Re: Ford 5000/super major-can't pinpoint exact year model in reply to scottd, 06-05-2009 15:30:33   Look under a thread I started, "The Fordson Power Major and more." Loads a little slow as I have not had time to try to figgure out how to down size the photos but there is a lot of good stuff on there. Someone at some point in time must have put the Super Major Emblem on the front just to make everyone think the tractor was a little newer. The headlights on the super should be in the grills. The Power Major had side emblems that were attached to the hood. Does your seat have a latch? If so, I would like a photo. I see that your tractor also has the downward exhaust which was an option. Dandy Dave! This post was edited by Dandy Dave at 05:43:13 06/09/09.   [Reply]   [No Email]
scottd 06-09-2009 20:08:14 66.82.9.12 17344 Report to Moderator	Re: Ford 5000/super major-can't pinpoint exact year model in reply to Dandy Dave, 06-09-2009 05:37:34   Thanks DandyDave! Being new to Fordsons, this is a bit confusing,at least for now. You know how it is when you start working on an old tractor and you get a feeling that somethings been swapped, modified, etc? I must say, I've really don't get that feeling at all about this tractor! All the paint lines match up,it's all in about the same condition... My main reason for wanting to know for sure is b/c it smokes like hell, and I 'm gonna rebuild it this winter, and I don't want to order a rebuild kit that's not right. When you say "seat latch",do you mean a latch to adjust the seat position? If so, it does have one and I'll send a pic soon. Thanks again for your help!!   [Reply]   [Send Email]
tiresntracks 06-06-2009 22:42:17 99.137.22.64 17334 Report to Moderator	Re: Ford 5000/super major-can't pinpoint exact year model in reply to scottd, 06-05-2009 15:30:33   scott N2X is Nov. 2, 1955. That's the day the engine block was cast. Your other 2 casting numbers are Sept. 15 and 18, 1959. You have a Power Major with an older engine in it. You don't have a Super Major/5000 after all. Someone probably just bought some decals when they painted it at some time. Since you have the Super Major emblem on it, you may have some sheet metal off of another tractor on it. I'd like to see some pictures, too.   [Reply]   [Send Email]
KFD68 06-06-2009 07:34:52 86.167.182.128 17328 Report to Moderator	Re: Ford 5000/super major-can't pinpoint exact year model in reply to scottd, 06-05-2009 15:30:33   First the code N2X is not a casting number which appears in Ford"s list. Because there is no serial number etched into the block, this may be a factory replacement engine - hence the X Look for casting codes on the left side of the clutch housing and on the left side of the rear axle. These should be very similar. These codes will date your tractor - post them on here. Diesel & Power Majors had lights on side of the front cowl, then in 1961 the British lighting regulations were changed, and the lights mounted in the grills. Supers in certain export markets were sold with headlights mounted on the sides of the cowl;often there were 3 horizontal tin bars on each of the grills on these export tractors. There were two holes for headlights on the sides of the cowl, used for different lighting positions for different markets" regulations. Tractors shipped to US were badged as 5000 Super Major with light grey wheels, hood and seat. But some may have been exported with blue hood to meet demands.   [Reply]   [No Email]
tiresntracks 06-07-2009 12:03:35 99.137.22.64 17336 Report to Moderator	Re: Ford 5000/super major-can't pinpoint exact year model in reply to KFD68, 06-06-2009 07:34:52   Hello KFD68, Your list shows X as the year code for 1955, doesn't it? I don't want to give scottd conflicting information ;)   [Reply]   [Send Email]
scottd 06-06-2009 14:42:46 66.82.9.81 17330 Report to Moderator	Re: Ford 5000/super major-can't pinpoint exact year model in reply to KFD68, 06-06-2009 07:34:52   Thanks KFD68! You're right, it has L15C on the left side of the clutch housing,and L18C on the forward side of the left axle housing. Also, it does have an upper set of headlite mounting holes like you said - there are some thin steel plugs in them. Thanks to you and everyone that has helped with this, and I'll send some photos this evening.   [Reply]   [No Email]
vt joe 06-06-2009 06:19:47 216.114.161.214 17327 Report to Moderator	Re: Ford 5000/super major-can't pinpoint exact year model in reply to scottd, 06-05-2009 15:30:33   you should show us all a photo   [Reply]   [No Email]
scottd 06-06-2009 14:17:57 66.82.9.81 17329 Report to Moderator	Re: Ford 5000/super major-can't pinpoint exact year model in reply to vt joe, 06-06-2009 06:19:47   I'll send photos soon. Thanks vt Joe!   [Reply]   [No Email]
dwol 06-05-2009 15:48:22 63.113.66.240 17325 Report to Moderator	Re: Ford 5000/super major-can't pinpoint exact year model in reply to scottd, 06-05-2009 15:30:33   Probably a 61 or 62, Around 63 they moved the lights inside the grill. Take a look at your injection pump as well, if it is a vacuum diaphragm with two leads in the front going to the intake then it is more evidence that it is a 61 or 2. The serial number is on the head near the number one (front) piston. Sounds like you found the spot, clean it real good, you may be surprised and might find the number. Then you will know for sure.   [Reply]   [No Email]
scottd 06-05-2009 16:12:25 69.19.14.19 17326 Report to Moderator	Re: Ford 5000/super major-can't pinpoint exact year model in reply to dwol, 06-05-2009 15:48:22   Thanks dwol! It does have the 2 lines from injector to intake as you mentioned...I'm getting closer! I really appreciate your help, and any other advice you may have about the tractor.   [Reply]   [No Email]
wolfman 06-06-2009 17:02:41 174.140.65.158 17331 Report to Moderator	Re: Ford 5000/super major-can't pinpoint exact year model in reply to scottd, 06-05-2009 16:12:25   I had a Super Major 10 or 12 years back and I think the serial # was under the hood back in the vicinity of the battery box on a plate. I think it was a 59 and when they became Supers they reved an extra 100 or two rpm. Had a Simms pump.   [Reply]   [Send Email]
scottd 06-07-2009 18:29:16 66.82.162.16 17337 Report to Moderator	Re: Ford 5000/super major-can't pinpoint exact year model in reply to wolfman, 06-06-2009 17:02:41   Here are the photos. Thanks for all your help!   [Reply]   [No Email]
tiresntracks 06-08-2009 22:17:32 99.137.22.64 17340 Report to Moderator	Re: Ford 5000/super major-can't pinpoint exact year model in reply to scottd, 06-07-2009 18:29:16   She looks like a diamond in the rough scott. It looks like its a Power Major. The 3-pt. lift cover and the front axle cross member aren't the right shape to be a Super. I can't tell for sure, but it looks like the valve cover has 2 bolts through the top of it. The engine that came in it had 6 bolts in the valve cover flange. It still looks like a '59 tractor with a '55 engine. No matter what year it is, its a good old tractor. Have fun with it.   [Reply]   [Send Email]
scottd 06-09-2009 20:14:07 66.82.9.12 17345 Report to Moderator	Re: Ford 5000/super major-can't pinpoint exact year model in reply to tiresntracks, 06-08-2009 22:17:32   Thanks tiresntracks! Other folks are saying the same, so I guess it is a Power Major. I'm gonna rebuild the engine this winter (smoking bad!!) and I was hoping to avoid ordering the wrong rebuild kit. I guess I'll measure the liner bores when I get it apart, and go from there.   [Reply]   [No Email]