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old 09-12-2012 09:10:05 209.86.226.56 Report to Moderator	Well got a call today and looks like I am going into an area I have never been before. Have a 3000 SOS coming in the work on that has a PTO problem as in it just up and stopped working when he was brush hogging with it so any guesses as to what is wrong there?? Never worked on an SOS tractor other then to make it run. Also he said 4 of the gears do not work so I get to try to fix that also. I have an F)-20 manual but it does not cover the 3000 but does the 2000 and 4000 any chance they are close enough to go by??? Thanks And yes I know not a lot of info but have not seen the machine yet only know what he said on the phone this morning. [Reply]   [No Email]
RodInNS 09-12-2012 16:17:55 216.118.158.123 Report to Moderator	Re: Ford 3000 sos/pto in reply to old, 09-12-2012 09:10:05   If the guy doesn't know what he's got for a tractor... don't take it on faith that he has the right manual either. I've never worked on one but I'd be very sure to have the right books if I did... Rod [Reply]  [No Email]
old 09-12-2012 20:41:40 209.86.226.58 Report to Moderator	Re: Ford 3000 sos/pto in reply to RodInNS, 09-12-2012 16:17:55   Been Around the block a few times and i always make sure of what a tractor model is before I start working on it. To many out there to do a guessing game and no to models are the same [Reply]  [No Email]
Larry NCKS 09-12-2012 11:36:17 64.254.59.123 Report to Moderator	Re: Ford 3000 sos/pto in reply to John in la, 09-12-2012 09:10:05   Sean's correct - no 3000 4 cylinders. Others have pinned it pretty well. Anything from actuating cable to major PTO problems. 4 gears out - hmmm - 5,6,7&8? 10 cent pin in sequencing valve if it is. [Reply]  [No Email]
soundguy 09-12-2012 11:21:45 173.105.58.123 Report to Moderator	Re: Ford 3000 sos/pto in reply to old, 09-12-2012 09:10:05   here's the link to john smith's sos site.. might help you with the 4 gears out. as for the pto.. might be a cable adjustment.. might be a pressure issue. lets see a pic of that machine... it's not an industrial of some kind is it? or a fordson and he's iding it wrong? john smith sos troubleshoot [Reply]  [No Email]
old 09-12-2012 14:04:44 209.86.226.57 Report to Moderator	Re: Ford 3000 sos/pto in reply to soundguy, 09-12-2012 11:21:45   That page is now book marked so I can find it easy thanks [Reply]  [No Email]
soundguy 09-13-2012 04:39:14 173.103.242.226 Report to Moderator	Re: Ford 3000 sos/pto in reply to old, 09-12-2012 14:04:44   keep us posted on that pto issue! and let us know what tractor he actually has when you see it. [Reply]  [No Email]
old 09-13-2012 08:49:34 209.86.226.11 Report to Moderator	Re: Ford 3000 sos/pto in reply to soundguy, 09-13-2012 04:39:14   I'll be heading out in 15-30 minutes to go pick it up. Had to renew the license on the trailer yesterday and have it all set up and ready all I have to do is finish my morning Y-T thing [Reply]  [No Email]
old 09-12-2012 14:02:15 209.86.226.57 Report to Moderator	Re: Ford 3000 sos/pto in reply to soundguy, 09-12-2012 11:21:45   I'll know more tomorrow since I am going to go and pick it up then and bring it to my shop for the work. This is going to be a new one for me since I know just enough about the SOS to be not sure how bad it maybe to fix. [Reply]  [No Email]
soundguy 09-13-2012 04:40:11 173.103.242.226 Report to Moderator	Re: Ford 3000 sos/pto in reply to old, 09-12-2012 14:02:15   once you actually identify what type of machine it is for the guy, we will know more. post back [Reply]  [No Email]
Sean in PA 09-12-2012 10:44:05 98.114.29.41 Report to Moderator	Re: Ford 3000 sos/pto in reply to old, 09-12-2012 09:10:05   If he's got a 4 cylinder tractor, then it's not a 3000. There never was a 4 cylinder 3000. The 3000 was first introduced as a 1965 model along with the new 3 cylinder versions of the 2000 and 4000. [Reply]  [No Email]
old 09-12-2012 14:00:35 209.86.226.57 Report to Moderator	Re: Ford 3000 sos/pto in reply to Sean in PA, 09-12-2012 10:44:05   I'll know more about it tomorrow since I am suppose to go and pick it up then. He has the manual so that will help but figure I am looking at having to split the tractor. He said he looked in the manual and did the check it said for the PTO cable and he said it seems ok so probably a clutch issue but again will not know for sure till I get it here and look it over [Reply]  [No Email]
Tequila 09-12-2012 09:54:15 70.196.196.245 Report to Moderator	Re: Ford 3000 sos/pto in reply to old, 09-12-2012 09:10:05   You will need at least the Fo-31 manual if it is a 3 cyl. Better to have the original ford manual as there are a few misprints in the IT. PTO problem could be control cable, control valve or PTO clutch. First two, are fairly easy to check. Clutch is definitely a complete transmission dissambly. With the manual check the band adjustment and servo pressures. My IT manual has servo 2 & 3 check points reversed. A little confusing at first. With the correct manual for diagnostic tests you can pinpoint the clutch or band-servo area serving the speeds not functioning. If adjustment don't do it, it's a three way split and complete overhaul, good luck !! I do have a complete 3000 transmission in excellent condition, if it should come to that." [Reply]  [No Email]
SGM75 09-13-2012 12:44:52 67.142.178.24 Report to Moderator	Re: Ford 3000 sos/pto in reply to Tequila, 09-12-2012 09:54:15   I have pretty much the same issues and mine is a 1965/3-cylinder/ford 3000. the slipping never bothered me as it was r-1, 3-4, and 7! my PTO quit on me too just like the one he is talking about. I saw you have a ford 3000 transmission. HOW MUCH and is it the SOS or a standard (if so what speed), and of coarse the key question.... HOW MUCH $$$$$. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME! [Reply]  [No Email]
old 09-12-2012 09:59:07 209.86.226.19 Report to Moderator	Re: Ford 3000 sos/pto in reply to Tequila, 09-12-2012 09:54:15   He said it was a 1965 and it is a 4 cylinder I asked him about that right away so I knew a bit more to go by. He also said he had a manual for it but just trying to get a step ahead by reading up on it before it gets here to work on [Reply]  [No Email]
Sean in PA 09-12-2012 09:22:32 98.114.29.41 Report to Moderator	Re: Ford 3000 sos/pto in reply to old, 09-12-2012 09:10:05   I believe that your FO-20 I&T manual is for the 4 cylinder 2000 & 4000. My I&T manual that covers the 3 cylinder 2000, 3000 & 4000 is the FO-31. The S-O-S troubleshooting section is fair. It has the tables that will tell you which servos and bands are related to each speed so if you know which 4 speeds aren't working, you can narrow it down pretty easy as to which component isn't working correctly. The PTO problem sounds like the PTO clutch went south, or maybe the PTO control valve. Edit: I forgot to mention the first time around that I'm pretty sure that quite a bit changed from the 4 cylinders to the 3 cylinders with the S-O-S transmission, so most of what's in the FO-20 probably isn't correct. This post was edited by Sean in PA at 09:38:50 09/12/12. [Reply]  [No Email]
old 09-12-2012 10:02:09 209.86.226.19 Report to Moderator	Re: Ford 3000 sos/pto in reply to Sean in PA, 09-12-2012 09:22:32   Th guy said it was a 1965 and also said it was the 4 cylinder made sure I asked that up front so I would have a educate guess as to what it was. That is why I wondered if the 2000/4000 and the 3000 4 cylinders where close enough to each other so I could read up on it before it got here. He did say he has the manual also so either way I'll have a manual to go by but would like to be one step ahead of the game [Reply]  [No Email]