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pawpaw pete 08-28-2012 10:36:38 69.126.206.32 Report to Moderator	Recently the crankshaft oil seal blew on my 1961 ford tractor. The engine is now trash. How do I know if this engine is a short or long block? I want to purchase a remanufactured engine. [Reply]   [No Email]
trac1 08-28-2012 12:40:32 97.79.31.102 Report to Moderator	Re: Short verses long block in reply to pawpaw pete, 08-28-2012 10:36:38   Why do you think it is trash? Might be cheaper to fix what you have, rather than buy what they want to sell you. [Reply]  [No Email]
wisbaker 08-28-2012 10:41:54 184.157.223.164 Report to Moderator	Re: Short verses long block in reply to pawpaw pete, 08-28-2012 10:36:38   The short and long block designations describe how much rebuilt engine you are buying. A short block usually is the block, crank, rods, pistons, oil pump, and if it's a flat head cam lifters and valves, if it's an OHV usually a cam and timing gear/chain and of course the bearings, rings and gaskets. The long block includes heads and sometimes manifolds, water pump and maybe tappet covers and oil pans. [Reply]  [No Email]
pawpaw pete 08-28-2012 11:06:24 69.126.206.32 Report to Moderator	Re: Short verses long block in reply to wisbaker, 08-28-2012 10:41:54   When I went to a local equipment dealership they asked me to make the distiction whether the block was a 171 cubic inch or a 131 cubic inch size. I thought the terms short and long referred to the cubic inch models? My engine is an OHV [Reply]  [No Email]
awhtx 08-28-2012 12:43:11 72.26.142.171 Report to Moderator	Re: Short verses long block in reply to pawpaw pete, 08-28-2012 11:06:24   All 1961 Ford tractors had OHV engines. The 601/701 series had a 4 cylinder, 134 cu in OHV engine, the 801/901 series had a 4 cylinder, 172 cu in OHV engine and in the very unlikely event that you have a 6000 it has a 6 cylinder, 223 cu in OHV engine. As previously stated, a rebuilt short block includes the block, crankshaft, rods and pistons and maybe a camshaft and lifters. A rebuilt long block is a short block with a rebuilt cylinder head attached. [Reply]  [No Email]
pawpaw pete 08-28-2012 15:06:28 69.126.206.32 Report to Moderator	Re: Short verses long block in reply to awhtx, 08-28-2012 12:43:11   I want to thank awhtx for your reply. I no little about the details of this tractor from a nuts and bolts point of view. I was 9 years old when it rolled off the assembly line. I just a user of the equipment. Acturally my son was using it when he discovered the oil leak and then it was too late. We trailered the unit back to our place and proceeded to take it apart . Removed the saddle bearing and discovered the bearing had been grooved from metal against metal with no lubricant. we stopped there. m Just assumed the cylinder walls were destroyed also because the crankshaft is at the lower portion of the oil pan. The machine was a great unit and that is why I want to salvage it. I even have a ROPS on the tractor and my son outfitted the ignition system with a multiple spark coil 12 volt system. Thanks to all who responded. Now that I know the deal I can go shopping. I didn't have enough facts in my pocket. [Reply]  [No Email]
36 coupe 09-14-2012 13:46:50 66.186.169.176 Report to Moderator	Re: Short verses long block in reply to pawpaw pete, 08-28-2012 15:06:28   Never assume anything. [Reply]  [No Email]
William Fissell 08-29-2012 19:48:45 76.18.178.56 Report to Moderator	Re: Short verses long block in reply to pawpaw pete, 08-28-2012 15:06:28   That's not a death sentence. Whether you pay a lot for someone else to do the work, or more for a remanufactured engine, or you do the work is probably a function of money and whether you need it working immediately or if you have a spare to use. No way I would buy a reman engine just based on what you've said so far. [Reply]  [No Email]
RBnSC 08-29-2012 05:04:36 76.73.221.117 Report to Moderator	Re: Short verses long block in reply to pawpaw pete, 08-28-2012 15:06:28   Bearings being scratched or grooved is not uncommon leak or not.If the engine did not break a rod and bust up the block or crack some where it should be rebuildable. Take it apart and post pictures. Ron [Reply]  [No Email]