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| mb58
08-28-2012 08:02:38
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I recently started restoring my Dad's old Ford 700 tractor. While working on it I found the number 741 stamped on top of the frame just behind the starter. Dad bought this tractor used, years ago at a tractor sale and it had been freshly painted in the gray and red scheme. Where will I find the serial number and what is the meaning of 741 stamped on the frame? And what makes a 741 different from a 700? It has the hood/nose medallion that is stamped "700".
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| awhtx
08-28-2012 10:31:00
72.26.142.171
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Re: Ford 700 or 741? in reply to mb58, 08-28-2012 08:02:38
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| Since the tractor's model and serial number are stamped into the transmission housing they follow the trans wherever it goes. It's possible that you have a 740 that had a broken trans and someone replaced it with a salvage trans from a 741. Most likely scenario is that you have a 741 with a 700 hood emblem. The 741 emblem was a piece of plastic glued to a metal backing plate. The glue fails after 30 years or so and the plastic piece falls off. Many people replaced it with the all metal 700 emblem that yours has. There are several ways to tell if you have a 740 or 741. The 700 hood side panels had Ford in script letters embossed into the metal and the 741 does not have them. The 740 had an ammeter in the dash panel and the 741 has a red warning light. The 700 does not have a fuel gauge and there is no sending unit in the tank. The 741 has a fuel gauge and the tank has a sending unit for it. The 740 had smooth rear fenders that curved over the top of the tire. The 741 fenders have a large kidney shaped indention pressed into them and they barely roll over the top of the tire. Post some photos.
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| mb58
08-28-2012 11:05:32
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Re: Ford 700 or 741? in reply to awhtx, 08-28-2012 10:31:00
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| Ok. It has the embossed script FORD in the hood. No fuel gauge. Has an ammeter on the dash. And it has smooth fenders. Must be a 700.
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| soundguy
08-28-2012 11:46:41
107.41.66.87
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Re: Ford 700 or 741? in reply to mb58, 08-28-2012 11:05:32
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| | last check.. is the front pedistal a single piece or 2 pieces. a 00 , except for a very late one would have a single piece front pedistal. hoods and dash panels can get swapped around. if you have a 2 piece.. you may indeed have a 741. also.. take a pic of the rear hubs.. smooth or with 2 ears? that and the front pedistal will help us id it a hair more. also.. the casting # onthe side of the engine... that will help too.
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| mb58
08-28-2012 11:59:43
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Re: Ford 700 or 741? in reply to soundguy, 08-28-2012 11:46:41
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| I'll check when I get back home. Thanks.
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| Jim.UT
08-28-2012 13:31:28
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Re: Ford 700 or 741? in reply to mb58, 08-28-2012 11:59:43
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| Solid pedestal used on 1955 - 1956 700 and 900 series (models 740, 950, 960)
Two piece pedestal used on 1957 700 and 900 series and all 701 and 901 series models
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| awhtx
08-28-2012 13:57:13
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And that's a great photo of a glue-on 601/701/801/901... in reply to Jim.UT, 08-28-2012 13:31:28
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| nose emblem that's fallen apart. The plastic piece is gone leaving only the metal plate it's glued to.
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| soundguy
08-28-2012 12:12:23
107.41.66.87
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Re: Ford 700 or 741? in reply to mb58, 08-28-2012 11:59:43
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|     here is a picture of my 63 4000 rowcrop with a 2 piece pedistal.. .. lower piece can be a wide front, or a narrow front single wheel, or a narrow front dual wheel. the single piece pedistals of the 00 series like a 700 would have is like the 2nd pic.. my 740 for instance.. 3rd pic is a smooth central hub of a 00 series.. 4th pic is the hub of a 01+ series with ears.
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| mb58
08-28-2012 10:29:06
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Re:Even More Confused! in reply to mb58, 08-28-2012 08:02:38
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| I'm even more confused. Do I have a 700, a701, or a741? The serial number is 68816. I know the color scheme for a 700. What is the colors of a 701? Aren't the 741's all red except the fenders? Help!
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| Jim.UT
08-28-2012 13:36:12
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Re:Even More Confused! in reply to mb58, 08-28-2012 10:29:06
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| If your tractor checks out to be a 741, then the serial number you have would make it a 1959. If the tractor is a 740 with a replacement tranny (which is what it sounds like so far) then the serial number means nothing. You'll have to get the age of the machine from date codes cast into various parts of the tractor. Ignore the transmission date code since we already have a strong suspicion that it is not original to the tractor. Other date codes can be found on the engine block, rear end housing, axle trumpets, hydraulic top cover and sometimes on the radiator and carb.
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| awhtx
08-28-2012 10:35:43
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Re:Even More Confused! in reply to mb58, 08-28-2012 10:29:06
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| You either have a Model 740 or a Model 741. The 740 was the only model in the 700 Series. The 701 Series contained the 741 and the 771/781 which had Select-O-Speed transmissions. The middle digit in the Model number represents the exact transmission that was installed.
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| old
08-28-2012 08:55:44
209.86.226.32
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Re: Ford 700 or 741? in reply to mb58, 08-28-2012 08:02:38
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| As Den said the 700 is a series that was built from 1955 to 1957 and then the 701 series came out and ran from 1958 to 1962 or so. Sounds like what you have is a mutt as in some one used parts from 2 or more to make that on. As you said the hood says 700 but the model says 741 which make it a 701 series model/series
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| Dean
08-28-2012 08:47:26
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Re: Ford 700 or 741? in reply to mb58, 08-28-2012 08:02:38
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| | 700 is the series, while 741 is the model number. 741 indicates a row crop model with 134 CI engine and four speed transmission. The number that you found stamped into the bell housing behind the starter is the model number the serial number should be just beneath the model number. Dean
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