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Tom Bond 08-08-2012 18:06:47 98.212.12.115 Report to Moderator	I pulled my pan tonight to see if I could find anything causing my oil flutuations while turning and stopping. Nothing obvious to me. How bout you guys? Couldn't find any holes or cracks in the pick up tube. There also is no screen like shown in the parts book. Does it need one? I did get about an 1/8" turn on each one of the 1/2" pump bolts. Nothing bad I don't think. However, on the larger 1/2' line with the 7/8" nut, I got about 3/4" turn with little effort. There was just a hair of play in the delivery tube before I snugged it down. How tight is that supposed to be? It was close to finger loose. Also, I only got 3 quarts of oil out of the pan w/o the filter even though it was showing 1/2 on the dip stick. Wonder if I was just sucking some air with the turns and quick stop or go's? Possible? Needed to drain anyway to switch from 30 straight to 10W-40. Anyone have any suggestions or should I just fill'er back up with a new filter and go for it? I'm also wondering now if I have the correct dip stick ang getting a false reading? Mine is 10-7/8" from where the cap sits on the block to the tip. Thanks guys. [Reply]   [No Email]
Tom Bond 08-17-2012 20:32:54 98.212.12.115 Report to Moderator	Re: Pulled My Oil Pan in reply to soundguy, 08-08-2012 18:06:47   All looks good now after getting it back together. I tightened down the fitting that supplies the oil filter that was finger loose and did another thorough inspection of everything. Didn't find any other issues. Cleaned up all the flanges to like new condition and refilled it with 5 qts. 10W-40 and a new filter. Put in the new plug and screen that was missing and fired it up. Oil pressure never dropped below 40 even after getting up to temperature. At increased RPM, it runs close to 50 psi. The best thing is there's no more leaks coming from the pan or plug with the new gaskets. My garage floor is clean!!!!! I think it's ready to put to work. Thanks for all the help guys! [Reply]  [No Email]
awhtx 08-09-2012 08:23:58 72.26.142.171 Report to Moderator	Re: Pulled My Oil Pan in reply to TONY JACOBS, 08-08-2012 18:06:47   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see My local TSC only carries the plug/screen/gasket combo and it is the same for an N and the X00 and X01 tractors. I bought one recently and it was $18. [Reply]  [No Email]
Tom Bond 08-09-2012 06:07:21 12.158.6.72 Report to Moderator	Re: Pulled My Oil Pan in reply to Dean, 08-08-2012 18:06:47   Yup...When I pulled the plug, cup and pickup tube were directly over hole, just no screen to be found anywhere. The cup was less than 1/4" above bottom of pan. Hard to tell in picture but the end of pickup tube and bottom of cup are close to even. Cup has cut outs on bottom about 1" higher than bottom to allow for oil flow I assume. I'll recheck everything again tonight when I get home. Am waiting on gasket to be delivered from this site so I can get it back together and fill'er up with fresh oil. [Reply]  [No Email]
Hobo,NC 08-09-2012 05:57:49 166.102.93.243 Report to Moderator	Re: Pulled My Oil Pan in reply to dogobat, 08-08-2012 18:06:47   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see Will add is this a true go no go test "NO"... Use you imagination but it should pass these test if it does the oil pump and pic-up should be good to go your issue is elsewhere... [Reply]  [No Email]
soundguy 08-09-2012 05:26:24 173.104.129.30 Report to Moderator	Re: Pulled My Oil Pan in reply to Tom Bond, 08-08-2012 18:06:47   when you pulled the drain plug, was the pickup tube and cup 'right there' it should be in order for the screen to slide up in it.. it screens and kinda can act as a stabilizer [Reply]  [No Email]
Hobo,NC 08-09-2012 04:46:05 166.102.93.243 Report to Moderator	Re: Pulled My Oil Pan in reply to Tom Bond, 08-08-2012 18:06:47   Having to find OP issues with different engines I have had to devise several different test while the oil pan was on and off... 1) slide a clear plastic tube over the center tube at the end of the pick up. Crank engine you should see/feel vacuum as soon as you hit the starter... It should pull at least 5" of vacuum immediately... if not look for a leak between the pump and and of the tube.... In a automotive application its usually a blown gasket were the tube mounts to the block are oil pump... 2) clear tube pushed over the end of the tube and inserted in oil crank the engine it should draw oil immediately... 3) Use a external source and pressurize the system look for a massive oil leak... You will see oil leaking but if theirs a area were its worst that's usually were the issue is... Pans off take the time to test... [Reply]  [No Email]
reb-in-pa 08-09-2012 04:15:03 134.198.94.206 Report to Moderator	Re: Pulled My Oil Pan in reply to Tom Bond, 08-08-2012 18:06:47   Guys -- I'm sure I wasn't the first guy to pull the pans on the couple of engines I've looked up into, so I've not for sure seen an original setup. And, it's been a while since I looked into any of mine, but I think that pickup tube looks like it's too high. I can't remember the bottom of the cup being higher than the bottom of the dipstick tube. If the pickup tube were bent so that it's hanging a couple of inches higher, then it could easily be out of the oil when the supply sloshes to one side or the other? In fact, the last one I was into was after I ran over a big rock while running the loader. The rock pushed up against my pan and bent the pickup tube. In fact, the tube got pushed against the crank, and I had a hole and had to make a new tube. We do see dents in the cup here, too. Ray [Reply]  [No Email]
John in La 08-08-2012 19:47:52 67.35.236.49 Report to Moderator	Re: Pulled My Oil Pan in reply to Tom Bond, 08-08-2012 18:06:47   I think if I had gone this far I would pull both tubes and pressure test them especially since one shows signs of dents. Take them off; submerge in water; plug one end as best as you can; and shoot air into the other end. Your problem could very well have been low oil but this is worth checking now. [Reply]  [No Email]
Royse 08-08-2012 19:42:40 69.36.49.151 Report to Moderator	Re: Pulled My Oil Pan in reply to Tom Bond, 08-08-2012 18:06:47   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see They're cheap. TSC carries them for the N's. Just the screen, or the whole plug/screen/gasket combo. I'm not sure, but they may be the same. [Reply]  [No Email]
Tom Bond 08-08-2012 19:21:44 98.212.12.115 Report to Moderator	Re: Pulled My Oil Pan in reply to JPFL, 08-08-2012 18:06:47   There was no screen in the plug at all. Is it imperative to have one? [Reply]  [No Email]
awhtx 08-08-2012 19:40:41 72.26.142.171 Report to Moderator	Re: Pulled My Oil Pan in reply to Tom Bond, 08-08-2012 19:21:44   It prevents large chunks of sludge, dirt and/or metal from getting sucked into the oil pump. [Reply]  [No Email]
awhtx 08-08-2012 18:30:15 72.26.142.171 Report to Moderator	Re: Pulled My Oil Pan in reply to Tom Bond, 08-08-2012 18:06:47   The Owner's Manual says 5 qts including the filter so that would be about 4.5 qts in the pan (the filter does NOT hold 1 qt). Sounds like you were 1.5 qts low so that may well be the cause of your pressure drop. That cup on the end of the pickup tube should be centered over the drain plug in the pan. The screen is actually attached to the drain plug and fits up inside the cup. [Reply]  [No Email]
mechanicfred 08-08-2012 18:18:13 173.242.83.136 Report to Moderator	Re: Pulled My Oil Pan in reply to Tom Bond, 08-08-2012 18:06:47   Pour 5 qts. in it and see where it reads. My dipstick was wrong also, I put in the oil then put the dipstick in without the tube and took a measurement. I then cut the dipstick tube off accordingly and put it back in the block. Reads fine now. [Reply]  [No Email]