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Gmitchell

07-07-2012 07:59:24
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No one on the N page seems to know the answer. I"ve heard that there is a piston that will go in the N series tractor without the sleeve, just in the cast block bore. Does anyone know what that piston is?




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HCooke

07-07-2012 16:38:43
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 Re: 8N in reply to Gmitchell, 07-07-2012 07:59:24  
That's because no one on the N board advises that. Put sleeves back in it.



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Kurt-NEPA

07-07-2012 09:19:23
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 Re: 8N in reply to Gmitchell, 07-07-2012 07:59:24  
When I got my 8N it was running without sleeves and with oversized pistons. The bore was worn slap out and the tractor chased away every mosquito in the county.

I'm not sure how long it ran that way. I tried to get it bored out, but the block was cracked. I ended up with an other block.

I agree with old, I would not try the oversized piston route. The re-sleeve and new piston route will give you a like new tractor that can be rebuilt again.

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old

07-07-2012 08:34:06
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 Re: 8N in reply to Gmitchell, 07-07-2012 07:59:24  
As Roger said and when you run it hard and long enough to burn oil you throw the block away



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Roger in Iowa

07-07-2012 09:49:09
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 Re: 8N in reply to old, 07-07-2012 08:34:06  
Been running an 8N since 1965 with pistons in block and still not burning oil. If you have to bore to install the thick wall sleeves, why do you have to throw away block after running pistons in block?

I do not like dry wall sleeves as they do not conduct the heat away from piston/rings. Look at the outside of a used dry wall sleeve. They are usually blue from heat. Same heat gets to piston/rings.

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Ultradog MN

07-07-2012 16:55:49
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 Re: 8N in reply to Roger in Iowa, 07-07-2012 09:49:09  
Roger, this makes sense to me. If the block was originaly bored for the thin sleeves it wouldn't hurt it to run pistons in the parent bore. If you ever need to rebuild it again - which nowadays is unlikely - then bore it for the thicker sleeves.
I probably wouldn't do it if it had the thicker sleeves already though.



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old

07-07-2012 11:39:01
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 Re: 8N in reply to Roger in Iowa, 07-07-2012 09:49:09  
Well the reason tractor engines have sleeves is so you can rebuild one back to 100% of what it was new. No sleeves no way to bring it back to what it was new. Been building engines since the 60s and yep do some high pro. stuff like the 292-6 Chev here in the office that has been bored 60 over crank turned and has a high pro cam in it. But it will and can never be put back to what it was when new

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Ozlander

07-07-2012 10:04:37
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 Re: 8N in reply to Roger in Iowa, 07-07-2012 09:49:09  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see

Maybe so, but millions of engines have sleeves and have had for a lot of years.



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Roger in Iowa

07-08-2012 07:02:45
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 Re: 8N in reply to Ozlander, 07-07-2012 10:04:37  
Is anyone using dry sleeves today? Anyone?



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Roger in Iowa

07-07-2012 08:09:07
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 Re: 8N in reply to Gmitchell, 07-07-2012 07:59:24  
Mercury car, about 1948, flathead V-8.



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Gmitchell

07-07-2012 16:13:26
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 Re: 8N in reply to Roger in Iowa, 07-07-2012 08:09:07  
Thanks Roger.



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