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TONY JACOBS 10-24-2009 20:58:39 205.188.117.74 455347 Report to Moderator	Hello Petra79 , Just to name a few differences for you besides the grille - 801 smooth hood sides, 800 raised Ford script sides, 801 rear fenders are flat and Ford scripted, 800 are wide and cover over the tire and are Ford scripted, 801 17 gallon gas tank with gas gauge, 800 12 gallon tank no gauge, 800 has amp gauge 801 does not, 800 hood is all gray, 801 is red and gray, 800 has chromed metal 800 emblem, 801 has chromed plastic wheat stalk emblem, early 800 have very small decals late 800 have large decals, all 801's have large decals, 800 small exhaust, small air cleaner, small carb and sediment bowl, 801 has larger exhaust, larger air cleaner, larger carb. and sedimant bowl, and after 1960 larger fuel line and shut off valve, 800 has power steering on 1957 only, 801 has power steering 1957-1962, 800 has brake shaft through the transmission case, 801 has it through the rear axle housing, 800 has only 28 inch wheels and tires, 801 has both 24 inch and 28 inch, 800 does not have Select-O-Speed transmission, 801 does in 1959-1962, 800 does not have Diesel engine, 801 does in 1958-1962, 800 are all 6 volt, 801 gas are 6 volt, diesel are 12 volt, 800 has light duty Industrial version, 801 has both a light duty Industrial version and the 1801 heavy duty version, 800 does not have the heavy duty front axle option, 801 does in 1958-1962, 801's also get heavy duty rear axles and heavier duty rear axle castings after 1961, I think that about covers it . Thank Tony Jacobs [Reply]   [Send Email]
john in la 10-25-2009 08:38:02 67.35.237.249 455369 Report to Moderator	Re: 800 Series in reply to TONY JACOBS, 10-24-2009 20:58:39   800 has light duty Industrial version, 801 has both a light duty Industrial version and the 1801 heavy duty version, 800 does not have the heavy duty front axle option, 801 does in 1958-1962 I did not know there was a 800 and 801 light duty industrial version. I thought the first light duty industrial version was the 2000/4000 and all of them came with a solid front axle. Can you explain this time line better.   [Reply]   [No Email]
TONY JACOBS 10-25-2009 21:47:27 64.12.116.9 455440 Report to Moderator	Re: 800 Series in reply to john in la, 10-25-2009 08:38:02   Hello John in LA, Before the availablity of the 2000/4000 series Light Duty Industrials in Dec. 1960 the 820's and the 821's were generally quoted in the Ford literautre as the light industrials . In the 100 series most 820's were 5 speed tractors but some were 4 speed, all had no 3 point and most had no pto unless it had a Backhoe with a pto driven pump like a Sherman , Pippin or similar brand . These did not have the Heavy Duty axle support(only first design standard support available), center beam or spindles or even the heavier front wheels . A 10 inch heavy duty clutch could be ordered seperately . When the 01 series came out in 57 it was the same as the 100 series but in 1958 Ford came out with the Heavy Duty Front Axle option which was the new heavy duty axle support(second design of support), heavy duty axle center beam, and the heavy duty spindles with the larger diameter lower bushing and bearing where they break most often, the 10 inch heavy duty clutch was also included in this package as was the wider front wheels . In 1959 the 811 tractors(with or without pto) with an S.O.S. were added to the lineup . This option was still available after the 2000/4000 tractors(fixed width axle with the heaviest and 3rd design support built, and very few 811's or 821's were built after the 2000/4000 Industrials) came out and continued until 1965. In July of 1964 this option was $58.00(with 6.50x16 multi rib tires) more on a 2000 All Purpose and $79.00(with 7.50x16 multi rib tires) more on a 4000 All Purpose tractor. A Sherman Combo ordered at the same time was $196.00, Power Steering was $159.00, Lights were $29.00, and a Swinging Drawbar was $22.00. A 4000 A.P. gas 4 speed tractor was $2,864.00 and a 4000 A.P. gas S.O.S. was $3,303.00. Thanks Tony   [Reply]   [Send Email]