Rick from NC
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Not trying to beat a dead horse... I posted this info in a reply the other day but I think the post was already off the page on the default view.
Brian Dye was a field service engineer for a large Ford dealership in the UK during the 60's & 70's. This is what he said about the Dexta "Perkins" engine:
"It is a common mistake to refer to the engine as a Perkins. This is not really correct. Perkins were developing a P3 engine which did not meet Fords requirements. This was the P3.144. The engine fitted to the Dexta was an F3.144. The Super Dexta engine was the F3.152. Ford required an inline injection pump and other changes which Perkins agreed to carry out and the deal was struck. All the major castings were made at the Ford factory at Dagenham; Perkins only made the smaller items like manifolds and assembled the engine. Engines were built as required and transferred from the Perkins Factory each day. Lorries took engines from Peterborough to Dagenham and returned to Peterborough with the machined castings for the next days assembly. No stocks of the engine were held at either company. When Ford discontinued the Dexta the engine was then sold as a Perkins P3.144 to companies like Massey Ferguson to fit in the MF 35 etc. Perkins books from the factory have no mention of the P3.144 until after Dexta production ceased."
"It seems that a lot of people have not understood the tie-up between Ford and Perkins. Would you give full control of your little tractor engine to your rival? Massey Ferguson bought Perkins and Ford needed to retain control of its power unit."
"The P3.144 engine was a replacement for P3 engines and was rated at 35hp at 2000 rpm. This engine used the CAV in line pump rather than the Simms pump and was eventually fitted with the CAV DPA pump when the bore size was increased to 152. Perkins assembled the F3 engines and designed some of the parts but Ford had a far higher input than they were given credit for. Perkins assembled 154,322 F3.144 engines and 64,496 F3.152 between August 1957 and October 1964."
Brian Dye was a field service engineer for a large Ford dealership in the UK during the 60's & 70's. This is what he said about the Dexta "Perkins" engine:
"It is a common mistake to refer to the engine as a Perkins. This is not really correct. Perkins were developing a P3 engine which did not meet Fords requirements. This was the P3.144. The engine fitted to the Dexta was an F3.144. The Super Dexta engine was the F3.152. Ford required an inline injection pump and other changes which Perkins agreed to carry out and the deal was struck. All the major castings were made at the Ford factory at Dagenham; Perkins only made the smaller items like manifolds and assembled the engine. Engines were built as required and transferred from the Perkins Factory each day. Lorries took engines from Peterborough to Dagenham and returned to Peterborough with the machined castings for the next days assembly. No stocks of the engine were held at either company. When Ford discontinued the Dexta the engine was then sold as a Perkins P3.144 to companies like Massey Ferguson to fit in the MF 35 etc. Perkins books from the factory have no mention of the P3.144 until after Dexta production ceased."
"It seems that a lot of people have not understood the tie-up between Ford and Perkins. Would you give full control of your little tractor engine to your rival? Massey Ferguson bought Perkins and Ford needed to retain control of its power unit."
"The P3.144 engine was a replacement for P3 engines and was rated at 35hp at 2000 rpm. This engine used the CAV in line pump rather than the Simms pump and was eventually fitted with the CAV DPA pump when the bore size was increased to 152. Perkins assembled the F3 engines and designed some of the parts but Ford had a far higher input than they were given credit for. Perkins assembled 154,322 F3.144 engines and 64,496 F3.152 between August 1957 and October 1964."
