1950 H live pump conversion??

renegag · Mar 17, 2015

Hi, I'd like to install a loader on my H to unload hay bales and would like to have a live pump, I know there are several posts about this but I would like to know what is needed exactly. I know I need another camshaft gear and another timing cover and a pump. I plan to remove the belly pump and design a tank that fits at the same place. can I still use the same distributor and are there anything else that I need to know? thanks alot!!

DeltaRed · Mar 17, 2015

I would highly recomend not useing a 'mag' pump. I
dont believe a live 'mag' pump will stand up for
the heavy use of loading/hauling round bales.Use a
pto pump instead.A pto pump has twice the volume,
and more pressure than your 'live' pump. The live
pump will probably work for a while,but will be
slow and will not develop the pressure of the
pto.Yes,guys are useing a live 'mag' pump on a
loader,most of em are just 'poopin' around the
'yard'. Btw,A new live pump alone is around
$1200.Not counting the other parts necessary. A
new 'Farmhand' pump is under $600.Use your mag pump for feeding power steering.

farmallsforever · Mar 17, 2015

I bought a M&W live pump for my M 30 years ago and it has worked well. I had a IH 1701 loader and loaded round bales with no problem. I used the belly pump as a tank. I drilled and taped 3/4 pipe threads into the bottom and hooked my intake hose there. I ran the pressure side to a remote valve. I don't think M&W are around any more, but you may find a used one somewhere.

al71 · Mar 18, 2015

I USED A PUMP, FRONT HSG AND PLATE ASSY FROM A 300, REMOVED THE BELLY PUMP AND TOOK THE PUMP ASSY OUT, MADE A FLAT 1/4' PLATE WITH A 1" PIPE COUPLING STICKING 1/2 WAY THROUGH SO AS TO PROVIDE A WAY OF ATTACHING A SCREEN FILTER INSIDE THE RESERVOIR AND A WAY TO ATTACH PIPING TO THE PUMP. BE SURE TO INSTALL A CHECK VALVE TO MAINTAIN PRIME. I USED 1" HOSE FOR THE SUCTION AND 3/4 " HOSE FOR PRESSURE. LEAVE THE DRAIN PLUG ALONE FOR SERVICING. Al71 GOOD LUCK.

jim23377 · Mar 18, 2015

awhile back there was a post of a live hydraulic conversion that was attached to the crank. It was a pretty neat setup. If I didn't have my H restored I would consider doing it. His post was either on here or on redpower. If someone finds it please post a link I would like to save it for future reference.

rustyfarmall · Mar 18, 2015

(quoted from post at 05:45:05 03/18/15) awhile back there was a post of a live hydraulic conversion that was attached to the crank. It was a pretty neat setup. If I didn't have my H restored I would consider doing it. His post was either on here or on redpower. If someone finds it please post a link I would like to save it for future reference.

That was on redpower. Guy by the name of tmtech, I think.

David G · Mar 18, 2015

Get the parts off a 300, they will bolt right up to a late 1950, but require changing the front cover and gear on early 1950.

I did it to mine, works great.

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