560 diesel vs case 830 diesel c.o.m.

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which tractor is best for heavy pulling and fieldwork, a 560 diesel or 830 diesel case??? which is heavier? any idea on fuel consumption between the two??? 4 btm plows? are they in the same power and weight category to compare?
 
My pick would be the 830 case. I've never had very good luck with the 560's between the TA's and the tendency for them to eat sleeves. I've ran three 560's for various duties, and not a one had a TA that was good. Another kept on breaking the top ring on the sleeves and gradually worked them down with the rods breaking of chunks. Had one on an 851 new holland baler for a short time, didn't last. Wound up baling that year with a w-9 gas tractor. A 560 isn't a good machine in my opinion, but I'm sure others might really like them.
 
(quoted from post at 16:44:12 03/21/14) which tractor is best for heavy pulling and fieldwork, a 560 diesel or 830 diesel case??? which is heavier? any idea on fuel consumption between the two??? 4 btm plows? are they in the same power and weight category to compare?

I've spent some time on a 830 c.o.m. It was probably one of the most clumsy tractors I have ever operated. Took about 40 acres just to turn around. That Case-O-Matic will give you an education also. Especially when backing up to hitch up a disc or wagon.
 
I will take the 560, wont find a better fuel miser either. it will pull 4/16's no problem. I have been with 560's for 47 years and if you take proper care of them they are a very cheap tractor to own, but so is true with most stuff. the 560 will run about 2 gal/hr. and even less on light pulling. the case quit a bit more. the only reason people have ta trouble , cause they don't know how to use them or even what they are designed for. the 282 engine is a good engine with its limitations. don't forget the same engine is in the 660 and rpm boosted to 2400 from the 1800 in the 560. even the early 706 has the same engine. so does many other tractor models. even the little 340 diesel uses the same engine in a 4 cyl. out of the 2 I would pick the 560 first, not saying the 830 bad either. its more of a clumsy tractor also. I am talking about the standard models in both models not the row crops or farmalls as that's my experience.
 
I am not sure about the 830 but back in 1960 I worked for a fellow who had a 800 case and we had 80 acres to plow, that night my friend who worked for a IH dealer brought a 560 over we were both pulling 5-16;s well he would lap me every round. that same man also had 2 DC cases hooked in tandem the next night i used that rig and I was lapping him. Don,t mean nothing now but was fun back then.
 
We own a 730 case comfort king and a 560 both. Both are gas not diesels but both are very good machines. Both are a little clumsy in certain instances of getting on and off but the case sits higher if it"s a comfort king so out of the dust more and I wouldn"t say either way which one would be harder on fuel but our larger cases more fuel efficient than any other brand. Case has more lug for hard work but if it was me I"d forget diesel and get gas don"t take that much more fuel and don"t have near the up keep. We have two 560 diesels in shop now getting complete clean out because of bio diesel. But the case diesel will start better than ih.
 
Two answers from me:
1. Whichever is in the best shape for the money.
2. All else being equal, 560.

If the TA isn't working on a 560 it's because it's plum wore out, not because of some deficiency in the design. You're talking about a 50 year old tractor here with umpteen-thousand hours on it, and it's probably only on its second or sometimes first TA.

Nice thing about the 560 TAs is that they generally go out on the low side, and you can run them on the high side literally forever when that happens, so it doesn't shut you down.

Hard-to-shift problems are a simple adjustment that most owners have neglected over the years.

Once you fix a bad TA, it's good for life. You'll never use the tractor enough to wear it out.
 
Have had a 560 from new a 1963 gas and it has never missed a beat very handy all be it does only lite work now, pilled 4-16s in heavy ground third gear great lugging tractor, as far as the 830 a good friend of mine had one and we hooked onto each other back to back for kicks as kids and just dug holes.
 

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