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steve1243

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How much weight could a loader on a super c lift safely. I've heard horror stories of them breaking in half because there isn't a frame. I'd mainly be using it to move 5x6 roundbales.
 
Are you going to buy a loader or build your owen loader? I help my dad build a loader On a 1947 Farmall B with live hydraulic. It sets on a heavy walled tube run down each sides of tractor The back end sets on drawbar and the front hangs off front of tractor and has brackets supporting it in the middle off bell housing. This tractor has had loader on it since the mid 60's. We used it for loading manure and moving snow. (still in use). If you go to Tractor Photo on left side of this page and type in D beatty there are two pictures of tractor and loader.
 
I use my loader with the six foot bucket all the time for manure
and snow, but there is no way i would attempt to move a bale.
There is definitEly stories of them breaking in half and busting
down the front bolster. Make sure you use your head. Once
you get a loader on a smaller tractor like this you can tell when
youre overdoing it.

Joshua
 
I was thinking of coverting a loader from an 8n. I would be making my own mounts. 2''x4'' square tubing for the bottom part of the frame, under the rear axle and over the front axle mounted permantly. I was hoping it would transfer most of the weight to axles that way and not bell housing bolts etc. Then weld some plates on so i could make the rest of the loader frame removeable. I use the tractor to run hay rake and tedder, so I don't want to deal with a front loader on it all the time. The hydaulics would be coming from a bypass block under the stock hydraulic lines by the rocker shafts.
 
I have a Super C with a Freeman loader running off the factory hydraulics. It picks up right at 1000 lbs. No more. Never had trouble with any of the castings. A big round bale is way too much weight. Tractor wouldn't pick it up anyway.
 

I wouldn't want to lift more than 5 -600# on the front of a C thru 240 If it were me. I wouldn't even want to do it with an H.
 
The IH factory loader has a frame running from the rear axle to the front bolster, the loader mounts to that.
Weight I would say 500# to 600#, the rear fast hitch will lift a lot more than the loader.
 
I would say that a Super C is too small of a
tractor to be handling 5x6 bales. Bales this size
will weight in the neighborhood of 1500 lbs or
more which will severely overload the tractor no
matter which end of the machine you try to lift
them with (loader or hitch). I use a hitch-
mounted fork on my 350 to handle bales like this
and the front end becomes essentially weightless.
I don't believe an SC just wouldn't have the
weight and length to remain stable if it could
even get it off the ground.
 
As several have mentioned, nothing smaller than an M for
moving bale that size. That's a big bale with a lot of weight. I
have a super C with fast hitch and a loader and I wouldn't
even consider trying to move my 5x5 round bales with it. If I
had to, beings it was the only tractor I had, I'd put a strap
around them and drag them to where they will be fed.
 
Even IF you could lift it(you wont),the rear of the
tractor will be up in the air...Even an M will be
light in the rear
 
There's a ferguson to30 for sale that i would consider buying. It has a deerborn loader on it that someone converted to a quick disconnect. The other tractor i would consider is a b414 it doesn't have a loader on it, but it's in my price range I'm willing fo spend. Would one of those work for what I'm looking to do?
 
The C wasnt realy built for that capacity but with careful driving you could carry them some just dont go high as the rear wheels wont have very good traction. Your lift cacapity will depend on the dia of the cycls. Long time ago i built one for my B I esed 1/2 x4 flaat bar from the front pedestal to the bell housing by the starter to support it from splitting. Used 2x4 tube for the upright off the flat bar and 2x2 tube for the frame. Pull the two pins from the cycls and two more from the uprights and loader is off leave the cycls on the tractor. Front of the cycl lays on a bracket by the steering pedestal 2wts on each rear wheel. Have two forks and they can be removed for the blade snow removal. But moving round bales with a C pretty risky.
 
The only SC I've operated with a loader was not confidence
inspiring. Felt pretty weak.

I did look at a Super C for sale that was used to move round
bales with a bale spear on the fast hitch. It was flat wore out
and finally broke the cast bolt holes out of the differential
housing.

I don't think a SC is enough tractor to handle round bales.
 
A Ferguson TO-30 is actually a lighter tractor
than a Super C - 2900 lbs vs 3200 lbs. It is also
short coupled which is not good when it comes to
stability. A B-414 would be slightly better but
not much. To carry a 5x6 round bale you should be
looking for a tractor that weights (in my opinion)
at least 5000 lbs bare then ballast it up from
there. As I mentioned, I carry bales on the rear
hitch my Farmall 350 (about 5500 lbs bare) and it
is absolutely all it wants for both hydraulic
capacity and stability. After installing a loader
the light front end is gone but it is still very
taxing to the rear structure and tires. I only
move a bale once a month; if it were every day I
would for sure be looking for something bigger.
 
Dad carried bales on the Fast Hitch of his 460 with 3 or 4 suitcase weights on the front, and it was almost too light on the front to steer... had to be careful. I almost put it in the ditch by going too fast down the road and not slowing down soon enough to turn in the driveway. Front end was sliding before I got it shut down enough for the wheels to grip.
If you are limited on funds, you might look for an older utility or industrial tractor as they are made for loaders, and although some have been abused, many of them are cheap and tough. The 24** IH or 31** MF series tractors come to mind. Used to run a 3165 MF and also a MF 204 Work Bull and they were pretty tough little tractors with a loader.
 
After reading all the respones I've decided its probably a good idea if i keep pushing them around with my truck and shop around for a bigger tractor with a loader already equipped. Thanks for all the input much appreciated.
 

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