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I had to remove the starter a month ago due to breaking the spring. I was able to pull start it with my truck to get it out of the field but now I can't get it to pull start again. It has been converted to a 12 v setup. I have the key on, and the choke set, but not even a hiccup. Don't know if it got thrown outta time or something else. Tried cranking it with the crank, nothing, Any ideas.
 
I will check it. But I had the starter out and pull started it before, now nothing. If I choke it to much I flood it. So maybe no spark.
 
So it has sat a month with out running right?? If yes pull the distributor cap off the rotor and dust cover then turn on the ignition. Carefully open and close the point by hand. Reason I say carefully is you can get a good zap if you do it wrong. Make sure you have a spark that the points that you can both hear and see. Good chance the points are corroded a little bit and that is enough to kill your spark and no spark no run
 
a friend of mine, soldered a wire to the base of a spark plug; put alligator clip on the other end of the wire.

remove spark plug wire, from spark plug, put on tester spark plug and ground alligator clip. now, turn on ignition switch, try starter and observe spark plug for spark. -------

this has came in so very handy.
 
It has never fired up and has been doing this since a couple of days after the initial pull start. I got power to the coil and such. In regards to points, I have a 12 volt setup
 
Power to the coil means nothing if the points are not opening and closing as they should and conducting power. Every time the points open you get spark but if the points are corroded so as not to make contact then you will NEVER have spark so no spark no run
 
I pulled the points and the wear pad looks like it has some damage. Not sure what is OK or Bad. but the edges are scuffed and folded over. Might be the issue. Think I am just going to get a kit and replace it. Wonder if the condenser could be bad.

Anyone know if 2 condensers are needed. I have one inside the distributor and their is another on the outside that is wired to the lug on the outside body and then grounded on the coil strap.
 
There is a small wire that has to be connected to the battery cable that was on the starter switch. Check that & see if it is tight.
 
Now days I do not replace a condenser since you stand a 50/50 chance a new one will be bad. As for points I have points file on hand to clean them up and keep going.
 
There is only one unless another was added for radio noise. Anyway just use the one in the dist then see if it has any fire.
 
Replacement drive ends for starters are only $34 shipped off ebay. It's not too difficult to replace yourself.

If you scrimped $10 a week for the last month you could afford to replace the starter drive now, and that would make troubleshooting so much easier. For a pack-a-day smoker, all he would have to do is cut consumption by one pack a week.
 
This is from my experience on my 450 of a few weeks ago: Make sure you have got a good ground for the distributor body to the block. If in doubt, do what I did, rig you a wire, doesn't have to be more than about 12 gage or even less, from the body of the distributor to the block, and then see if it starts having a spark. I about had a stroke working on my 450 until I did that, and from then on, no problem at all. Good luck, and my email is open if you have a question or whatever. Hugh
 
I have had the exact same problem with my H a few times. If you C has a distributor make sure the battery is charged. If it has a magneto it doesn't matter. The distributor will not fire without a charged battery.
 
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