Is it a Good Deal?

Saturday I stopped in at Rolling Acres Tractor Repair just out side Dycusburg Ky and Talked to the the old man there about getting my H re-rung. The old man said he charges $550.00 labor for H re-ring, and $650.00 labor for M's. I asked him what the difference was between a re-ring special and a overhaul. He said all the same except overhaul includes replacing the sleeves. So then I asked him what the job consist of? He told me he cleans the tractor removes the engine inspects the clutch takes the engine apart install front and rear seals replaces rod and main bearings hones the cylinders cleans the pistons installs new rings send the head to a machine shop for valve job, puts it all back to gather tunes engine changes filters and repairs minor problems
He sells all parts for just what they cost him , bill from parts house included. Or you can supply your own parts! Is this a Good Deal? He is doing a 460 and an M right now, I asked how much to do the same thing on a 560 and he said $800.00 labor oh and a Ford 601 was $600.00 labor! My friend ask about what would be close guess for rings, rods, mains, seals, gaskets, oil, filters, tune up, valve job and labor on his 460 if it has no major problems the old man scratched his jaw and said about $1450.00 maybe less if parts are standard? Well is this good deal?
 
agree with IH Fan. I'd let the fella overhaul my 340 for that ballpark labor. easily double at Case IH shop.
 
Soooooooo, what does he do to the crankshaft, does he check the cam and lifters, etc.? Not knocking the feller at all, just wondering cause it sounds to me like he just patches it up instead of doing it right. I know these engine are pretty forgiving, but things still need to be done/checked regardless.
 
Reringing an engine is just a patch job. Putting new rings on worn pistons and sleeves is a recipe for oil consumption. New pistons and sleeves are well worth the investment. Make sure the guy carefully measures the crankshaft and camshaft and has them machined if necessary.
 
Guys, keep in mind that's just the labor to take it all apart and put it back together. There is no machine shop work in that price or parts!
 
(quoted from post at 22:06:40 11/05/13) Guys, keep in mind that's just the labor to take it all apart and put it back together. There is no machine shop work in that price or parts!
Yea. Your looking at double that. I assume the dude isn't handy enough to do this work him self?
 
I have watched the old fellow work the guy that asked the question left out alot of information. The man takes his time and checks everything, the old bearings for wear, the crank for color, cracks, oil ports gallies, checks pistons for wear, ring grooves, each sleeve, deck height,water ways, flow, oil pump gear wear, pulls lifters inspects them, plastic gauges bearings, removes the crank from the block, pulls the cam and checks it,checks nuts, bolts, studds, inspect rods for streach and out of round, pin bushings and more before he reuses parts, he even used a dial indecator to check piston travel on all 6 clyinders of a 560 because it had lower compression on one clyinder when it came to his shop for a overhaul. So I would say he has his way of doing things!
 
(quoted from post at 18:48:49 11/05/13)
(quoted from post at 22:06:40 11/05/13) Guys, keep in mind that's just the labor to take it all apart and put it back together. There is no machine shop work in that price or parts!
Yea. Your looking at double that. I assume the dude isn't handy enough to do this work him self?

Handy has nothing to do with it. A machine shop should do a much better valve job than anybody at home because they have better equipment.

Yes, seems plenty reasonable. If I were to go that far I would do sleeves as well.
 

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