Alternative to calcium chloride

Mark Poss · Mar 14, 2013

Do they make an alternative to calcium chloride for tires? and how much would it cost to fill the rear tires on an H? I think the tires are 11.2x 38. Thanks for your time, Mark.

Brendon-KS · Mar 14, 2013

There is a product called Rim Guard that is made from beet juice that our local tire shop sells. (Google "rim guard" and you'll find it.) It is designed to be non-corrosive and non-toxic. I've never tried it and don't know what it costs, though.

sd pete · Mar 14, 2013

Some use automotive windshield washing fluid. Others have used rv antifreeze. I always used Calcium Chloride. Whatever floats your boat, I used cc for over 40 years and no problems

realolman · Mar 14, 2013

(quoted from post at 16:10:32 03/14/13) Some use automotive windshield washing fluid. Others have used rv antifreeze. I always used Calcium Chloride. Whatever floats your boat, I used cc for over 40 years and no problems

Last summer I got new tires on wheels that had tubeless tires filled with calcium chloride on them for 40 couple years. The wheels looked like new on the inside. I was shocked.

John G. Hasler · Mar 14, 2013

Salt alone won"t corrode steel. Oxygen is necessary.

souNdguy · Mar 14, 2013

eco safe rv holding tank af and water.. plus a 6$ burp valve and fill yer own.

spill? no worries...

Bill Lisbon · Mar 14, 2013

We had a tractor come in once and it had molasses in the tires. I don't know how much it would cost, but if you had a flat the cows would clean up the mess.

Jim Naden · Mar 14, 2013

Iron.

Larry James · Mar 14, 2013

I went up to the local repair shop & picked up 2 barrels of used antifreeze & put that into the tires of my int 330, seems to work great. It tested at -10 below and he was glad to get rid of it.

robgIN · Mar 14, 2013

back in grandpas day they just poured the wheel centers full of concrete. somewhat more difficult to remove if you change your mind though.

Old-F20 · Mar 14, 2013

ive got about 125 gallons of used oil, although i dont know if im brave enough to try that. potential to make a big mess in the shop!! lol

Royse · Mar 14, 2013

I had the tire shop out to change one of my large tires last year.
I thought it was too big for me to handle.
To fill it with Calc was $1.50/gallon, Rim Guard was $3/gallon.
Prices will obviously vary by location, but there's an idea on comparison.
I filled my smaller ones at home. 13.6 x 28 held about 30 gallons IIRC.

FBH44 · Mar 15, 2013

If I was doing it, on an H Id just look for the wheel weights. So much simpler, can be removed if you want to repaint the wheels, can be put back on easy. Can be added on, stacked one on top of the other. Very simple. No leaking, no corrosion, nothing to worry about.

Fullers Farmalls · Mar 15, 2013

I just went through this... here was my thoughts.
I paid $20 for over 1400lbs or 120 gallons of CaCl. I have good tubes and hope I don't get a leak. If I do, I'll repair it and keep everything clean.
Iron weights, in my area, are around $1 a pound. Not worth my money.
Rim guard is heavier but the service call, and cost of the solution was more then i wanted to pay.
Beet juice is used but i didn't have access to it.

I put over 800lb in the rear of my Super M and another 600 in the rear of my H. Both are brand new machines now that they can pull more with the added weight.

Anonymous-0 · Mar 15, 2013

Beet juice like others have mentioned. Not heard of molasses, sounds like a fun thing to try.

glennster · Mar 15, 2013

i run chloride in all my tractors that need it. i paint the inside of the rims with 2 coats of por 15 rust conversion primer and let it dry a day before mounting the tires and tubes. the chart i have doesnt show the 11.2x38 but for a 13.6 x 38, to get the maximum ballast use a 5 lb per gallon mix. the 13.6 will hold 46 gallons of water and 230 lbs of calcium. it will give you a total weight per tire of 614 pounds. napa has the liquid fill valve for about 20 dollars. i use a 12v sprayer pump to pump the mix it, but you can use a drill driven pump from menards for about 8 dollars. i mix in a 100 gallon poly tank. the solution will get very hot when first mixed, let it cool down for a few hours before loading the tires. if you do get a flat, fix it right away. the por 15 will keep the calcium from rusting the rim. firestone does have a warning on their website about not using alcohol or methanol based fluid in their tires for ballast. here is the link
poke here

WK-WA · Mar 15, 2013

I had (in the last month) the local tire co. come out and fill 2 16.9x30 tires with beet juice. I checked the prices (for both CC $3.60 and beet juice $4.40 per gallon). Add into that a cost of $ 90 an hour for the service call. It seems that the CC would be cheaper until you factor in the mix time of 45 minutes or so for each tire. I decided to go with the beet juice even thou the 45 gallon per tire didn"t weight as much as the CC would have. This is in SW WAshington and I would guess the prices are going to be different depending on your area. Wayne

Jim Naden · Mar 16, 2013

Iron ballast doesn't damage rims or cause tire repairs to be more expensive or difficult.

Iron ballast doesn't get lost when you have a puncture.

Iron ballast doesn't slosh around.

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