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rankrank1 01-27-2013 07:11:12 198.228.228.148 Report to Moderator	As others have pointed out, that loader design does make it appear to be hard to get on and off the tractor. That said it does look like there might be just enough room to cut out that angled gusset bracket near the rear tire that runs to the main vertical post. Then farmer...engineer a set of heavey duty steps to replace the gusset bracket strength purpose as well as to aide in getting on and off. Easy to do if you can weld some. Otherwise I believe Westendorf loader brand considered good in their day and loader does appear to have single lever joystick control which is upgrade over 2 lever control. Tractor looks very straight for age and 656 usually highly thought of. Diesel more so than gas (but that is almost always the case). Some love a gas for loader work as they always start in cold without hassle. Only minus I see, is the narrow front end. I actually like them, but many people are afraid of them so price will always be less if you go to sell it. NF will literally turn like a zero turn mower so very maneuverable, but caution will need to be followed with a loader on a NF. As long as price is fair then I would not be afraid of it, but I would not want to pay premium top dollar price due to the NF. This post was edited by rankrank1 at 07:13:35 01/27/13 2 times. [Reply]   [No Email]
cleddy 01-27-2013 09:00:27 174.74.54.243 Report to Moderator	Re: 656 Thoughts in reply to rankrank1, 01-27-2013 07:11:12   Those loaders are made fully adjustable. The tower has telescoping set-screw pipes going back to the rear axle and by moving the mid & front brackets to different holes on the frame there can be more room in front of the rear tire. They are constructed so strong you would never break it. I put my wide front back on my tractor which messes up the drive in-mount feature but all my life we used a F10 farmhand loader on a WD Allis with narrow front and only tipped it over twice(once Dad Never knew about)and only when we should of knew better.cleddy [Reply]  [No Email]