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minnemoman 01-11-2013 11:02:15 69.89.205.141 Report to Moderator	was there an potion other than live hy, I have never seen one with a belly pump, or was there no hy until the w-400 with factory live hy [Reply]   [No Email]
Redturbo 01-11-2013 19:08:39 66.112.187.143 Report to Moderator	Re: w-6 hydraulics in reply to minnemoman, 01-11-2013 11:02:15   My Grandfather had a blade put on his Super W6 in the later 50's. It used char lynn setup, by the 70's it gave up the ghost. My Dad mounted a pump off the crank. This fall I redid the setup. This is a 1953 Super W6, no factory live hydraulics. This pump cost me $125 cdn, does around 12gpm. [img][/img] [img][/img] This post was edited by Redturbo at 19:10:28 01/11/13. [Reply]  [No Email]
minnemoman 01-11-2013 19:49:54 69.89.205.141 Report to Moderator	Re: w-6 hydraulics in reply to Redturbo, 01-11-2013 19:08:39   very cool thanks for the pics [Reply]  [No Email]
minnemoman 01-11-2013 16:11:09 69.89.205.141 Report to Moderator	Re: w-6 hydraulics in reply to minnemoman, 01-11-2013 11:02:15   thank you for the replys guys, couple of things to think a bout now :) [Reply]  [No Email]
JJ IN NE 01-11-2013 15:35:11 65.125.127.242 Report to Moderator	Re: w-6 hydraulics in reply to minnemoman, 01-11-2013 11:02:15   No the w6 never had a belly pump . Another alternative for live hydraulics is to run a pump off of the front of the engine through the hand crank hole in front casting .I purchased a w6 and a w9 with this set up . they both had F-10 Farmhand loaders on them. it takes a little effort but it can be done. Kind of spendy . they both used a love-joy coupler on the crankshaft using a longer pin through the crankshaft. After measuring the length of shaft needed they used a weld a hub center and welded it to the shaft. They then used a 1/2 inch plate cut to fit what ever pump they had. drilled holes to line up with the casting on front of tractor . Used longer bolts with double nuts to adjust depth and alignment of shaft and pump. This actually works well . The previous owner of the w9 told me the loader was on it since shortly after it was new . I checked the service meter (hourmeter) on this tractor and it had 11024 hours on it when he parked it. [Reply]  [No Email]
D Slater 01-11-2013 14:21:37 184.15.8.141 Report to Moderator	Re: w-6 hydraulics in reply to minnemoman, 01-11-2013 11:02:15   Engine driven hydraulic pump and hydraulic system was available for W-6 tractors before the Supers. Without looking I think it was 1950 when first offered. [Reply]  [No Email]
sflem849 01-11-2013 14:31:45 69.197.84.39 Report to Moderator	Re: w-6 hydraulics in reply to D Slater, 01-11-2013 14:21:37   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see Would make sense, that is when it started for the 9s. [Reply]  [No Email]
D Slater 01-12-2013 06:17:58 184.15.8.141 Report to Moderator	Re: w-6 hydraulics in reply to sflem849, 01-11-2013 14:31:45   Made a fast look for info on the hydraulic attachment. Didn't see the exact time they could be had for a W-6. But it was no later than early 1951. If installed on non diesel 6 series tractors below serial # 37137, other parts needed to be purchased other than the attachment. Camshaft gear, front engine cover and plate. Unless those parts had already been replaced for some reason. Bunch of extra parts were needed for a diesel. Serial 37137 was made in 1950. [Reply]  [No Email]
sflem849 01-11-2013 13:58:40 69.197.84.39 Report to Moderator	Re: w-6 hydraulics in reply to minnemoman, 01-11-2013 11:02:15   So they didn't make a W-6 with any hyds until the Supers? They were super advanced with the 9 series hyds. Live came out in 1950 with those! [Reply]  [No Email]
athol carr 01-11-2013 13:47:16 115.188.3.223 Report to Moderator	Re: w-6 hydraulics in reply to minnemoman, 01-11-2013 11:02:15   The Australian built AW-6 and AOS-6 (early 1950s) had a belly pump, I think they had the rail front frame not the cast front. They had a cylinder for the 3 point linkage under the transmission cover between the bull gears and the hydraulic lines plumbed through the top cover [Reply]  [No Email]
mkirsch 01-11-2013 12:36:57 64.80.110.75 Report to Moderator	Re: w-6 hydraulics in reply to minnemoman, 01-11-2013 11:02:15   The W6 never had a belly pump. I don't know if the W6 changed over to the compatible bolt pattern at the distributor in 1950 like the M. If so, the IH pump will work on 1950-up, but won't bold up to 1949-down. There's also the M&W pump, which will bolt up to the older distributor mount. The Char-Lynn PTO pump "Pow'r Pak" unit is pretty neat. I bought one last summer off Craigslist. Still need a tractor to put it on. [Reply]  [No Email]
rustred 01-11-2013 11:12:35 209.115.232.65 Report to Moderator	Re: w-6 hydraulics in reply to minnemoman, 01-11-2013 11:02:15   the other option for hyd. on w6 was the charlyn hyd.pump which bolted up to the pto. the pump was right in the round canister which contained the oil. many of the old tractors had this set up. the super w6 has the same hyd. pump as the 400 which ran off the cam gear. [Reply]  [No Email]
glennster 01-11-2013 16:32:35 99.90.9.201 Report to Moderator	Re: w-6 hydraulics in reply to rustred, 01-11-2013 11:12:35   heres some pis of the char-lynn unit. Untitled URL Link [Reply]  [No Email]
minnemoman 01-11-2013 19:50:36 69.89.205.141 Report to Moderator	Re: w-6 hydraulics in reply to glennster, 01-11-2013 16:32:35   cool thanks for the pics [Reply]  [No Email]