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39 M rear light yes or no?

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Baelee05

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Okay, I know I am probably drving you guys nuts with all these questions about my old M but here goes another one. Did the 39's have a rear light as standard with the light package or was it an option? Or maybe it wasn't even available on the 39's. Thanks.
 

Does it have a genny drive pulley and a ring gear for a starter???

They show a kit for that and a lighting kit in the accessories catalog.

Looks like the rear light was another kit
 
Not quite sure what you mean by a genny pulley. It has a
generator. It also has a belt pulley if that is what you are
referring to. It does have a ring gear on the flywheel. It
sounds like the rear light might have been an option that early.
I guess I'll proceed with that in mind. Thanks guys.
 
(quoted from post at 19:48:14 12/13/12) Not quite sure what you mean by a genny pulley. .
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Generator drive on the water pump. Early models were not equipped with the drive or a ring gear.

Since you have both it must have been upgraded at some point.

I say put anything on it that is correct.

If they offered an upgrade kit to put all the stuff on then it would be proper to have it on there!!!!!!!!!

Look around that auction site and you can find the attachment guide.
 
Below serial 28058 a fan pulley with a place to drive a generator needed to be added for a lighting attachment. Starter gear needed added to the flywheel for starter or lighting and starting attachments below the same serial #.
 

This is what I believe to be the correct rear light for a 1939 M and H. It goes in the corner of the platform and the rod for the pto runs through it. I have a real low serial number M and have spent 100's of hours reserching these early H's and M's What I have found is the lighting package was not avalible until September of 1939 and most of the parts in the kit are unique to the early models If you have any questions I can try and share what I know. I have spent years finding all the small unique parts for mine and feel I have about all the small things on mine. Paul
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Okay, mine has what appears to be a normal PTO lever
bracket which makes me wonder if this tractor never had a
rear light to begin with. My serial number is 782.
 
Number 29! That is way cool. I have a neighbor who has his father's 39 in a barn and it is supposed to be in the 500's. I'll have to try and find out what number it is sometime. What is the lowest serial number M known to still exist?
 
Paul the original 1939 electric starting and lighting kits or lights only list of parts for attachments 52038D lighting only and S&L 51722D has no rear light or mounting bracket listed.
Also in a previous post I posted that I didn't think the steel covers for the liftall opening holes in the clutch housing were around in 39.
Does this agree or differ from what you know?
Realy his tractor is before official lighting attachments.
 
The booklet "Promoting The New Famall Line" from 1939 includes in the special features list (options) for the H and M: "Electrical lighting equipment with Delco-Remy generator and 13-plate battery, two swivel-type head lamps, brackets, switches, etc." From that, one would conclude that there was no rear light at least at the time of introduction.

The price list from the beginning of 1940 still listed the same part numbers D Slater mentioned. So presumably the lack of a rear light continued at least through that time.

At some point, the lighting attachments for the A included a choice of a system with 1 head lamp and one rear lamp. Evidently they eventually realized that a rear work lamp was more valuable than a second head lamp.
 
There was just a rear lighting attachment for tractors already equiped with lighting, # 61889D
for 6 volt. Guy Fay says in one of his books that the rear light attachment wasn't available until may 1941. Maybe because there does not seem to be a listing for the attachment in 1940.
Also the MD tractors may have been out by the time the rear light attachment was.
 
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