706 Gasser and 5 bottom plow

I may have access to an IH semi mounted 5-16 plow to plow up a small (5 acre) food plot. Will my 706 gasser pull it? I guess I could remove one bottom and make it a 4-16...thanks, Cmore

Depends on your ground and depth. Sandy conditions may be fine. Around here it would struggle with 4 bottoms.

Oh, it's kinda loam soil...most of it has been worked up for several years, and plowed every year...a couple acres are sod, however...Cmore

It would probably pull it in low gear if only for a small plot. I had a 706 gas year's back and it struggled to pull 4 bottom. Would have handled a 3 bottom about right.

706 gas is a good 3 bottom tractor in heavy soils and a 4 bottom in light soils. I have med-heavy soils where I farm and I pull a IH 720 5-16 plow. Used to use a 966 and it would only pull it in 3rd low (have a 1586 now, no problem). It might pull it in low 1 with the T/A back and only 4" deep. Your problem will be traction.

NO , however it WILL haul 4x16 IF it is in good shape and tuned properly has the weight and balance . NOW this is the kick in the Arres ya need the fuel to do this and i will tell ya ahead of time don't try it with 87 gas ya may get by with the new 93 but here i will not guaranty it will not get super hot . You will never see it on the temp gauge before damage is done . The first time she flutters stumbles and starts to die to late .You can drop the back bottom on that plow and move the tail wheel up to the pre drilled holes and either leave the back bone sticking out incase someday ya get a 5 bottom tractor or put the gas axe to and cut it off ya have to shorten up the coupling pole , some time it is as easy as pulling a pin then other times ya have wack and redrill.

It's all in your soil. In my neighborhood, no, a 706 wouldn't even touch a 5 bottom. My 806D works hard enough with 4 bottoms. I'll be in 3rd low, sometimes in 4th low. Now, I don't know how fast he was going or how deep, but I know a guy that has the 806 gas his dad bought new, he claims they pulled a 6 bottom with it, don't remember whether it was 14's or 16's. That was 7 miles north of me on much lighter ground, though.

Point being it's possible, depending on soil conditions. Your best bet though is to take it down to a 4 bottom, or borrow a 4. Also, you're just working up a food plot, you wouldn't need to plow 6 to 10 inches deep, just a few inches. The trick may be getting it to cover while that shallow. Try it! You're going to pull it, stall it, or spin out. Just wait to try it until the neighbors AREN'T watching! LOL -Andy

I've taken your advice and always run 93 octane gas in my 706 since I got it this spring...thanks, Cmore

You have nothing to loose, try it with the 5 bottom, if it don't pull it, drop a bottom. Many times guys don't set the draft control right. I was at a farmer's place and he told me his 966 was having a hard time pulling a 5 bottom. I went out with him and showed him how to set the draft control, he went up 2 gears and the tractor played with the 5 bottom.

It's a 5 acre food plot in loam, not 80 acres of clay... try it. For a food plot, especially in soil that has been worked before, you don't need to plow 8" deep, just turn it over... as a matter of fact, I wouldn't even plow it, I'd disk a couple times and seed it.
We pulled a 5x14" with a 450 gas in wheat stubble plowing only 5 or 6" deep, but pulled a 3x16 in corn ground where we plowed about 8" deep. A 706 has more power than the 450. Makes a difference what you are trying to do with it. It may not be ideal, but like I say, it's a 5 acre food plot.

On 5 acres try it. 706 is a lot more than a 3 bottom tractor.

Bill Lisbon

You have nothing to loose, try it with the 5 bottom, if it don't pull it, drop a bottom. Many times guys don't set the draft control right. I was at a farmer's place and he told me his 966 was having a hard time pulling a 5 bottom. I went out with him and showed him how to set the draft control, he went up 2 gears and the tractor played with the 5 bottom.

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Ok, I'll ask it, how do YOU set the draft control? Common practice in my area is to set it as heavy as possible and leave it, so the plow will run a constant depth. Or at least so I'm told. I've never tried it. I've thought about playing with the draft control, but haven't. I always plow with the draft control maxed out, one of those "That's how Grandpa wanted it done" deals that I've not deviated from. -Andy

Why not you arent farming 1000 A

Dear God not this crap again.

This is one time when the vet is wrong. We pulled 5 14s with the 706. We had to overhaul the engine every two years but we pulled that plow every spring. Grin.

(quoted from post at 18:40:00 08/29/12) Dear God not this crap again.

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hey the guy has to learn some how.

Rick

Hey, its good entertainment

I will give ya the 5x14 but not 5x16's . World of difference about like pulling a set of 540 semi mounts with a 450 diesel yep she would plow all day long in third in corn ground but put it into sod and drop back to second and make lots of black smoke . put that same plow behind a 706 and you would roll sod 8 inches deep in first high but put a 710 4x16 behind the same tractor with the tractor set and the plow set and oh wait a min i need to drop back to 4 low add and extra bottom in 16 and you will be in third with the stick back lugging it to death and IF you have enough weight on it you might keep the ft. end on the ground so you are not looking down the exhaust pipe . Heck why not try 7 bottoms or even eight i know a 706 will pull them ---------down the road in road gear till ya come to a hill. When new they were rated as a 4-5 bottom tractor as even the 806 was rated 5-6 bottom . In the fall of 63 i got lots of seat time on two new 806 diesels pulling 700 series 5x16's and it was 4th low stick ahead plowing 8-10 inches deep. The next spring a 706 D was added and a set of 4x16 behind it . and it was forth low plowing in our ground . Now granted there are areas that the soil is a lot harder to plow and places that it is light . And a lot depends on who's plow your trying to pull as to how hard it will pull. Oliver and International plows seam to pull easier why heck i don't know . so why work the snot out of a tractor just to prove that yea i CAN do this then spend thirty hours working on it because you did . I am lazy i would much rather spend that thirty hour in the seat the wrenchen .So lets see if i pull 5 bottoms and get two years out of the engine but if i drop a bottom and get four or five years out of the engine and it takes me and hour and a half to drop a bottom , i'll drop the bottom. BUT that is just me .

Oh yeah, the classic "my tractor can pull more bottoms than your tractor" discussion.

"My all-original Farmall H can pull a 12-bottom IH 800 flex frame set 12" deep in 4th gear in hard clay..." Whatever.

Can't we ever have this discussion SERIOUSLY? Why do some people have to ruin it by telling "noobs" to hook a boat anchor to their tractor and try to plow with it?

Some of you guys can't wrap your heads around the fact that there are different types of ground out there. Some ground plows WAY harder than other ground.

5-14 is a totally different animal than a 5-16. It's not "just two inches" it's two inches TIMES FIVE. 10" is almost a whole bottom.

Besides, this is a 48-year-old tractor, not a brand new Maxxum. Do you really want to be pushing its limits? 706's are not cheap to fix.

Wow, That would be a load for a 706 Gas in these parts . We ran 4 x 18 behind an 886 and Dad always said he wished he would have gotten a 16 instead. But, that was plowing deeply for farming, not just food plots. I ran a 3 x 16 behing my 80 horse Diesel Ollie and wouldnt have wanted any more. A five bottom is a large heavy piece of equipment too. You may find the job more enjoyable with a smaller plow IMO.

For 5 acres, you"d sure have a lot more fun pulling 3-16s than trying to pull 5-16s. Lots easier on the tractor too.

I always love the how many bottoms can I pull discussions

706 Gas -- Have a fuel truck standing by - it's thursty, load up the weights and go for it in low 1 or 2 until you hear pop!

Seriously you need at least 1 drawbar hp per inch of plow for the easy to pull plows in easy to pull soil. I'd go closer to 1.5 drawbar hp per inch of plow for the newer deeper pulling plows in hard to pull soil.

So your 65 drawbar hp 706 Gasser will have trouble pulling a plow designed for a 1206.

5-12, 4-14 or 3-18 will work better with your tractor

My recomendations would be.

656 3-16
706 3-18
806 4-16
1206 5-16

Kill it if you must - load it up with weights and give it a shot. Your only plowing 5 acres and it might just surprise us and survive.

Ya didn't quite git my drift as I was making fun of the elders stubborness in the family. I was just a kid but by golly ih said it would pull five bottoms no matter how many times we had overhaul it. The plow was bought new with the tractor and lord forbid it be traded back in. Btw the 656 pulling four 16s had to be the lead in the furrow. It would simply walk away from the 706 has it had the more proper plow. Couldn't outrun the 706 pulling a disk though 3rd don't keep up wit l4 or h1. Grin

(quoted from post at 13:01:29 08/29/12) I may have access to an IH semi mounted 5-16 plow to plow up a small (5 acre) food plot. Will my 706 gasser pull it? I guess I could remove one bottom and make it a 4-16...thanks, Cmore

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C'mon guys, read the original post. He only wants to plow 5 acres and in a later post he says it's "loam" normally meaning about 40% sand mixed with other stuff and generally easy to pull a tillage implement through. Yeah, the 5x16" is probably not the ideal plow to pull with that size tractor.
I don't know how they do "wildlife food plots" where you all live, but a friend of mine runs a hunting guide service here in Kansas (and lets not get into a "they ruined my hunting place" discussion) and plants several acres of plots. He runs a disk over them a time or two and drills it, meaning it doesn't need to be tilled 8 or 10" deep, basically just knock the weeds down and scratch the top 2- 3" inches deep. Drop that 5 bottom plow into "loam soil" 5" deep and work 5 acres... why not try it and I bet it will work. Answer the question and not worry about if it will not "pull it all day in our clay".

C'mon guys, read the original post. He only wants to plow 5 acres and in a later post he says it's "loam"

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Pfft, any chance these guys can get to weave tall tales about how much plow their mighty tractor can pull...

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Give it a try. Can't hurt if you are careful. And it's just 5 acres, so try it.

That said. It also depends on soil.

We had a 706 Diesel, the German diesel. A 4-16 was all we wanted with our soil. We had a 766 that we pulled a 5-16 with, and again, that was all it wanted.

Good luck, Gene