F12 Rear Steel

What could I expect to get for a good set of rear steel off an F12? Found a guy that has a front pedestal with steel and rear steels he wants to get rid of. I only need the front but he does not know what they are worth and I only need one set of rears. Central IA

Thanks!

It depends on the rear steel. Early Waukesha rear steel wheel has a small cast iron hub, they go for $850 for a good set that is not cracked. The later type is stamped steel with cast iron spreaders welded on them (the most common type). They go for $350 to $500. Front cast iron double steel are worth $250-300 for the pair; the early waukesha stamped steel single front (looks like to pie tins put together) are pricy at $1500 to $2000 for the wheel. They wore out fast and were too light to keep the front end down; didn't last long. Hope this helps!

Yes thank you! Im guessing I have the more common later type, but the tractor is all waukesha but the motor and frame rails. Any chance you can tell what I have from these pics? They are all I have at the moment and tractor is 65 miles away. Thanks!

Yes you have the later type. Now from the pictures, The fenders are NOT the waukesha type....those have square corners not chamfered. Also, the fron tboster on the Waukeshas were ribbed, much like the regular, f20, and f30. They were prone to break so most were replaced with the solid type like you have. Infact the solid boster you have is a 1937 or later--you can tell from the filler plug in the front top. The rails are the early style; I cannot tell if the gas tank is...if it has an X stamped in the front panel behind the engine rather than a round circle, then it is the early type. Later type had the round circle.
The hood is from a Kero burning F-12 IHC engine. The Oil filter is late 1934 to 1937; but the oil filler cap looks like a 1933 (if it doesn't have ears on it and is stamped steel instead of cast iron).

Now about the Waukeshas.....In my area, if the tractor was traded in or there was promotional deals from IHC, the tractor was upgraded by the dealer. The upgrade was replacing the waukesha engine with an IHC engine, F4 mag with the newer impulse coupling, new stronger solid cast front bolster, lower radiator spout to match the IHC engine, 9" clutch instead of the waukesha and early 8" clutch. NOW if the tractor came through the dealership after 1939, then the dealer would make the above change overs plus the F-14 steering and use a f-14 engine.

Hope it helps.

I have a 1933 waukesha f12, #3076 & #3182 1933 IHC engine f12, 1934, 35, 36, 37, 38, and 1938, 39 f-14. They are all fun!

I REALLY appreciate the input. All my other tractor are H's and M's so this is a whole new animal to me. It does have the X stamped into the fuel tank. The radiator is stamped with a W along with the rear axles which I was told meant Waukesha. Was alo told the air cleaner having the extra ring on the bottom cup was from a Waukesha tractor. Guy telling me all this though the tractor may be a '33/34 when they where transitioning.

IAtractorKid, I see the tractor pictures you posted. You have nothing that is waukesha. You have run of the mill F-12 with steel wheels and fenders. Get us a casting code and or serial #. Someone gave you a good story. oldiron29

I have the W all over my 14. Its actually ITW. Look up the serail number, it will tell you for sure!! Front gas tank support, and flat spot near the fuel pump should match if its the original engine. Looks like 99% of the F12s Ive ever seen!

I agree with Oldiron29, that is not an early Waukesha F12, just a plain Jane F12. But the steel wheels and fenders are a plus and since it was free, so much the better!

Thanks guys. Had dad get me the serial numbers and you are
right...1937. It does have the early gas tank though.

Any tips, tricks, pointers, or things to watch for on these
tractors? Thanks again!

If it isn't a Waukesha repowered with IHC engine, than it is an early IHC engine f-12, 3035 through maybe 6000. I have two 1933s with IHC engine; Ser# 3076 & 3182 and this tractor looks much like it. #3076 was upggraded with a solid cast front boster and f-14 style steering; the #3182 has had no changes as ti was used for a few short years as belt power; they stripped out the steering worm gear so that they could only use it as a stationary power unit.

The F-12s are basically the daddy of the Farmall A & B. The internal engine is almost the same; many parts are interchangeable. The rear brake drums rust up and lock up, so make sure they are covered. The fuel pumps are sometimes a problem; Down draft carbs can flood out the engine--need to watch the float level carefully. When in proper order, the tractor should start on 1st or 2nd crank every time. The F-12 was a huge leap forward for IHC from that of the Regular, f20 & f-30. INfact, the M, H, A, B, C, and cub was developed based on lessons learned and design of the f-12. Good little tractor.

IAtractorKID, Can you tell us what the guy at the auction payed for the tractor with the wide front on it? Oldiron29

3 F12's with perfect condition wide fronts sold for $1700 each and I know for sure that one of those was only bought for the wide front as we were talking to the guy and he asked me if I wanted to buy the rest of the tractor from him. My tractor sold for $900 and the wide front on it had a couple small welds and was missing one tie rod clamp but the guy was not worried about that for the price, especially since he had missed out on all the others. There was another bare WF that sold for $450 but it was in really bad shape and only about half complete.