Replacing Push/Pull Ignition Swith with Keyed Switch

F4RM@11 · Jul 23, 2012

Has any one replaced the original style push/pull ignition switch with a keyed switch? I haven't taken the original in to compare sizes with new keyed switches yet, but am wondering if anyone else has done this?

This is for a '53 Super M.

oldtanker · Jul 23, 2012

Sure did. I wire in a relay too in an effort to make it grandkid safe but it can be wired in to just control the ignition.

This is on my M....I think 1948. The white knob is the lights and the black a push to start switch.

Rick

rustyfarmall · Jul 23, 2012

(quoted from post at 07:45:59 07/23/12) Has any one replaced the original style push/pull ignition switch with a keyed switch? I haven't taken the original in to compare sizes with new keyed switches yet, but am wondering if anyone else has done this?

This is for a '53 Super M.

It can be done, but I doubt you will find a keyed ignition switch that will fit where the original push-pull switch is located.

My 1940 M had a keyed ignition switch when I bought it, but whoever made that installation just bored a huge hole in the headlight bar, and then bored another huge hole to install the push button starter switch. Ugly as all get out and accomplished nothing because the wiring was exposed on the back side and could very easily be hot-wired. Wouldn't even need the key.

Bob M · Jul 23, 2012

There's not a lot of space inside a Super M ammeter box. A compact key switch (like from a cheap riding mower) MIGHT fit. But it will be a very tight squeeze.

A key-operated battery disconnect switch may be a better alternative. Mount it on the battery box or to a bracket attached to the starter.

A decent disconnect switch can be had for about $20 (see link).
battery disconnect switch

The Red · Jul 23, 2012

Rick I like your modifications! Correct police will groan.

The Red · Jul 23, 2012

Bob does anyone sell a recreated push pull coil switch? I emailed Ken Updike but he never responded.

Bermuda Ken · Jul 23, 2012

Red....no mail from you here....

There is a reproduction push-pull switch made. I beleive Stiener has them.

A key switch can be fitted into the box. We use the switch from a Cub Cadet.

We built one H to be be key switch start. (a bit of rewiring and possibly different starter are needed). The lights were controlled thru the switch too.

The Red · Jul 23, 2012

Thanks Ken. When work picks up I will be ordering some things from you. Haven't forgotten you! Corey is at Marian U. That place is robbing my tractor parts cookie jar money!!!

soybeanjoe · Jul 23, 2012

I purchased a push/pull ignition switch from our CIH dealer a couple years ago for my Stage 1 SM. It has never worked correctly. Most times to get the tractor to shut off you have to rotate the switch left to right after pushing it in.

Bob M · Jul 23, 2012

Hey John - I picked a nice reproduction switch for my Super H at the Canandaigua steam show several years ago. If memory serves the vendor was AgriServices (www.wiringharnesses.com).

Bob

oldtanker · Jul 24, 2012

(quoted from post at 13:30:58 07/23/12) Rick I like your modifications! Correct police will groan.

Thanks.

LOL it's a worker not a show tractor so I don't much care what anyone thinks. Works for me as the grand kids can climb all over it and I have no worries about an accidental start or of it even rolling if one were to activate the started while it's in gear.

A garden tractor switch would work too. They make both battery ignition and mag switches that are available from NAPA and other parts stores.

Rick

ramtuff · Jul 24, 2012

I would hate to butcher a tractor up like that.

mkirsch · Jul 24, 2012

(quoted from post at 13:43:17 07/24/12) I would hate to butcher a tractor up like that.

Like WHAT, exactly?

There isn't any of that that couldn't be removed and restored to original in a matter of about 45 minutes. Not that there aren't a quarter million H's and M's out there, and one being "butchered" really is no big deal.

If you want complain about butchered tractors, go pick on ones with the hoods all chopped up because the owner couldn't figure out how to mount the alternator.

oldtanker · Jul 24, 2012

(quoted from post at 13:48:06 07/24/12)

(quoted from post at 13:43:17 07/24/12) I would hate to butcher a tractor up like that.

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Like WHAT, exactly?

There isn't any of that that couldn't be removed and restored to original in a matter of about 45 minutes. Not that there aren't a quarter million H's and M's out there, and one being "butchered" really is no big deal.

If you want complain about butchered tractors, go pick on ones with the hoods all chopped up because the owner couldn't figure out how to mount the alternator.

OH darn you mean I screwed up and didn't cut the hood when I put an alternator on it :shock: :shock: :shock: ?

Rick

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