Super AV cultivators, toolbars, wheel weight questions

Mark Capps · Jul 20, 2012

Hi,

I am looking into buying a Super AV tractor and have a few questions. The one I am looking at does not have the AV cultivators, but a set of A's are for sale. It looks like the plows would have to have longer shanks etc. I am wondering what specific parts I would need and if anyone has a set for sale. I also was wondering if the A wheel weights will fit the Super AV.

Thanks for your help and advice,
Mark

mikeintn · Jul 20, 2012

Mark the rear weights on a SAV takes the same thats on the rear of the C or SC and I think the H and M also, the front weights should be the same as the A.

On the front cultivators, the tool-bar and shanks are the same, the piece that slides in the front bolster and the arms that connect to it are different on the SAV.

On the rear cultivators the brackets that bolts to the finals are different and the rear tool-bars are a little longer to clear the taller rear tires, hope that helps some. Mike

Mark Capps · Jul 20, 2012

Hi Mike,

Do you know if they are hard to find and if the bar in any way lowers the real clearance in the middle?

Mark

mikeintn · Jul 20, 2012

They are a little hard to find, I had a front set but just sold them a couple of months ago.
Let me say I dont do much farming so I'm not sure about what your asking on the clearance but I dont see how any of the bars would cut down on the clearance in the middle, they maybe someone else chime in here that knows more about the clearance.

Mark Capps · Jul 20, 2012

Hi Mike,

How much did they sell for if you dont mind me asking. I am trying to get an idea of how much I will have into the tractor.

Thanks so much,
Mark

CharlieNJ · Jul 21, 2012

Mark,
First and third pictures are of my Super AV, the "A" sticker on the grill is wrong. First picture is the last thing that my corn sees after they get cultivated. Notice there is no toolbar in the middle. Tractor came "motor stuck" for $600, full cultivator setup was $550. Third picture is the Super AV with my cole duplex planter with fert hooper leaning against the wheel.
Second picture is my regular AV. Notice the different toolbar bracket.
Forth picture is what the Super does for my corn.
Best Regards,
Charlie

Mark Capps · Jul 21, 2012

Hi Charlie,

Thanks for the photos but its still foreign to me. I see in photo 2 that there is a bar that goes across the belly of the tractor to hold the attachments, does that bar make the clearance lower? Im wondering if it does cross over the middle, if it really gives the super AV more than a few inches over an A or super A. I am also trying to figure out what unique parts I will need outside of a set of AV cultivators.

Thanks,
Mark

gene bender · Jul 21, 2012

Do you see the difference between the SAV and the AV cults i for got you were buying a SAV as the one for the AV would be easy to build. Your best bet is just finding one for the SAV and that wont be easy first they just didnt make that many SAVs. You do see the tractors for sale with the frames on them then you would need to just buy the cult if they would sell it off the tractor. My self i would but a AV and make the cult. The solid bar on the one in the pic for the SAV sure takes away the hiclearence feature.

Mark Capps · Jul 21, 2012

Hi Gene,

Thanks! Yes the purpose in buying the tractor is for the high clearance. I am just not familiar with these tractors, but the high clearance is a must as the current tractor I am using is just not cultivating crops that are high. The tractor I looked at did not have the cultivators on it but he had various sets of stuff off to the side for an A. I just want to make sure that I am clear on it all. The AV does not have that bar across, that looks like it drops the clearance a good 4 inches. The Super AV does have that bar, due to the power lift?

Mark

Mark Capps · Jul 21, 2012

Hi,

I have edited the photo to show the part that concerns me.

Mark

Mark Capps · Jul 21, 2012

Hi,

Hopefully the photo will post this time.

Mark

CharlieNJ · Jul 21, 2012

Mark,
My AV does have the tool bar bracket, Super AV does not have the bracket. While that bracket is about 4" lower than the tool bar receiver on the bolster, the bracket only lowers the front clearance about 1/2" difference from the from axel.
What crop are you cultivating?
Regards,
Charlie

CharlieNJ · Jul 21, 2012

Mark,
The "tube" of the bar is only about 1/2" lower than the axel. But it is about 4" lower than the tube on the bolster. So, the tool bars would be lower. But center clearance would be neary the same. Sometimes my corn is almost a foot taller than my clearance, but it pops right back up. Are you clear on that?
Regards,
Charlie

Anonymous-0 · Jul 21, 2012

It's amazing the changes they made in the cultivators from A to the late 140HC. I have a 140HC a they look alot different than the photos. Mark where are you located I have a A295A plow for a Super AV. Two bottom fairly rare plow and I do not need it.

Mark Capps · Jul 21, 2012

Hi,

Yes it would work then. My other question is on the cultivators. He has a set for an A that he would put on it, and can get the correct back plows with different brackets. He suggested that I would just have to extend the shank on the plow, have it wielded, to make it work like the original?

Mark

Mark Capps · Jul 21, 2012

Hi,

I am in Loganville, GA

Mark

CharlieNJ · Jul 21, 2012

Mark,
I'm not sure I can tell you about going from an A onto an AV with cultivators. Maybe Gene could shed some light on that. I do know there are two sizes of tool bars brtween the earlier and later A's and AV's. The newer is square bar, while the older is rectangular. I have had a little trouble finding cuff clamps that hold the shanks to the toolbar for the older rectangular toolbars. Are you clear on all that?
Regards,
Charlie

Anonymous-0 · Jul 21, 2012

I am in Maryland, if you are interested give me a shout. It is not going anywhere.

Harold H · Jul 21, 2012

Mark,

If you truely want more crop clearence and want to stay with basicly a small tractor, go with a B or C sized tricycle tractor. You will also gain a two row tractor. A, B, and C sized Farmalls all have simular sized engines and power trains. If you need more clearance on a B or BN, you can install the 36" rear and 19" front wheels as used on a AV or SAV or a tall single front wheel. If you need more clearence on a C sized tractors you can go with 42" wheels on the rear and taller on the front. Two row C thru 240 cultivators should be fairly easy to find and will give you good clearence.

Harold H

Harold H · Jul 21, 2012

Mark,

I noticed on the YT Photo Ads, there is a Farmall 140 High Clear for sale in Egleville, TN for $1950 and a Farmall Super C with cultivators for sale in Moulton, AL for $19.50.

Harold H

mikeintn · Jul 22, 2012

Mark heres some pictures of my 100 that may help.

mikeintn · Jul 22, 2012

More pictures.

theredshed · Jul 24, 2012

Charlie.. nice tractors. those cultivator parts look firmilar. I have the clamps for the rectangular bar. also have another super av for parts or to restore pretty nice tracto just needs tires and engine is stuck but not bad.. Later John see tractors here
http://www.jlequipmentsales.com/Tractors.html
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