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Stumpy(NH)

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Hey guys. I have a silly question. I would like to bale with my M in a field that I just picked up. It has a pretty steep hill that I can drive up and down, no side hill. I realize I can get 540 rpm, but at what throttle position? 1/2, 3/4, full?

I normally use a smaller tractor for this, but what the weight and power for this one field.

Thanks

Stumpy
 
540 RPM will be nearly full throttle on an M, I think. On my H I only run it at full throttle momentarily if I get to a thick spot, about 1/2 to 3/4 seems to work most of the time. Our baler is almost 50 years old so I don't like to run it at full speed more than necessary.
Zach
 
I believe the M is set up to run 540RPM at the PTO when it's running at "full load" RPM.

Unless you need the power there's normally no need to run the baler that hard, though. You may find the baler makes nicer bales at a lower speed.
 
You dont have to be at 540 for baling. With an M you should probably try 1/2 throttle and then adjust up or down from there. M will have plenty of power, but sometimes the baler works better slower or faster I have found. The material you are running through it can call for different speeds to make the best bales too. You will have to expierment a little. On my H I have a scratch mark on the throttle for where I run it in alfafa, and its at about 2/3 .
 
I'm thinking you're going to get a workout doing this unless you've got a live PTO kit added to the M. Steep hills and baling with non-live PTO is going to keep your legs moving a LOT. The M will pull the baler fine... until you get a wad and have to kick it out of gear ... and then get it going again. Depends on how you rake it.

If you've got something slightly smaller with live PTO or IPTO, I'm thinking you'll get done faster & safer and with less wear and tear on your knees.
 
I'm thinking you're going to get a workout doing this unless you've got a live PTO kit added to the M. Steep hills and baling with non-live PTO is going to keep your legs moving a LOT. The M will pull the baler fine... until you get a wad and have to kick it out of gear ... and then get it going again. Depends on how you rake it.

If you've got something slightly smaller with live PTO or IPTO, I'm thinking you'll get done faster & safer and with less wear and tear on your knees.
 
All tractors I've been around get 540 rpm at about 90% or more of full throttle. But our old square baler would work fine at lower speeds, just as long as you are going fast enough to pick up the hay.
 
No live pto. I agree with the workout part. My normal tractor is a Ford 961. It's just not weighted to be comfortable on this hill.

Stumpy
 
Mine is no spring chicken ,but it's in good shape. I am told they are pretty speed sensitive and like 65 strokes per minute, but I'll give it atry with the lower throttle.

Thanks!

Stumpy
 
(quoted from post at 11:00:52 06/13/12) Hey guys. I have a silly question. I would like to bale with my M in a field that I just picked up. It has a pretty steep hill that I can drive up and down, no side hill. I realize I can get 540 rpm, but at what throttle position? 1/2, 3/4, full?

I normally use a smaller tractor for this, but what the weight and power for this one field.

Thanks

Stumpy
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We could pound out a 1000 bales a day using an H and a model 45 baler pulling a man on the wagon.

Midwest Michigan was ALL hills and valleys. You learned to feather the clutch and work the rhythm of the plunger to "kick it out of gear" .. listening to the equipment.

The tractor was weighted well and we never had issues working hills.
 
I have been baling hay for years with an M, Super M with M+W live PTO clutch, and a Super W-6 running a NH 269 baler. I run in second gear unless I am baling rye straw then I use first. Very seldom have to shift to neutral or pull the hand clutch. Tractors have plenty of power. I pull 8 by 18 or an 8 by 16 basket wagon on hills as well as flat land. Usually bale 5 to 6 thousand bales per year.
 
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