Super M 3 bolt starter rebuild Questions? (GOOD bendix?JIM:)

Hey guys, Went to start the machine tonight and all I got was a "ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ" noise.Well ,pretty much figured the starter drive was busted,pulled it out and sure enough it was broken right at the spring.Went ahead and tore it all the way apart,degreased it,sandblasted it,and looked it over,acid etch primer,and ready to order parts.

The rear cover bushing is worn,1 brush is worn funny(wasnt fully on armature????) Armature is perfect,little clean up and it is good.

My question is awhile back Jim Nicholson mentioned a better starter drive to seek out when rebuilding.He said it engages "softer"when starting on 12 volts????(Mine hits pretty HARD when I pulled the lever!)Where do I get these????


Also,when I took it apart,I failed to "capture" the shims/washers off of the armature shaft in the sequence they go on it.(They went everywhere! lol)There were 4 steel washers,ALL 4 of them have the same I.D. But 2 are the same,BIGGER O.D. and 2 are the same,SMALLER O.D. Anyone know how they go???? BTW,I am used to seeing a LEATHER washer inside a Delco starter on the rear cover plate,but maybe this is different on the bigger,tractor starters???(I am getting ready to "crack" opem my manual now!)

Any help/advise is appreciated.

I looked on this site and they only show the ols spring drive style. The link is the good one, the price might be better at another source. JIM
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I recently had a 54 stage 2 SH starter rebuilt by my local small town craftsman, very few of these guys left. Did an excellent job. Cost $89 including the clutch type bendix. The $59 price tag on just the drive seems high.

He calls the drive that Jim has a link to a clutch type Bendix drive.

I got the last one he had and he said that his supplier is no longer carrying them. I hope he finds another source by the time I need another rebuild.

I see SEVERAL sources for the newer ratchet drive at around $40-45 bucks for the drive.(Stiener's,EBAY,external_link,a few others)

If I can get ALL parts needed,I am looking for 1 source.I need brushes,bushings,starter drive.

The four washers you found in your starter should have two the same with a little smaller ID than the other two. These go one on each end of the armature. They control the total end play on the shaft when assembled. The other two will have a bit larger ID so that they will slip past the step on the drive end of the armature. They should be two different thicknesses. They control the total movement of the drive on the shaft. They are not used with the newer style drive.

NAPA should get them for you bushing,bearing and brushes. Any Delco Remy parts source should be able to help i do my own and dont have any trouble.

When it comes to starters and alternators I have my local auto electric components shop rebuild my stuff. They do a awesome job and a decent price. I never waste my time taking electrical components apart.

I get your point. I know my local places do an AWESOME job,resonable rates. For some reason,I just do my own 10 SI Delco alternators and starters?? Part of the "hobby" to me? I like to actually "SEE" the condition of the old parts comeing out.My curiosity,I guess???

Found all my pieces locally.Going to put it together tonight.