ok I am now down to 2 tractors the m with a wide front and loader or the international with a loader the M has power steering, not sure about the 404, given seven acres ,some plowing , horse manure cleanup ,moving dirt and rock, plowing snow what would be the better buy, price is within 400 dollars. used to have ford 8n and farmall row crop 300. some hills .
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Janicholson
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404 for your situation. THE M is twice the tractor, but lacks Lvive hydraulic and just too big.
Jim
Jim
Rated HP, the 404 is supposedly more powerful than an M, but the M will work circles around the 404.
HOWEVER, the M is not a great utility tractor. 404 would be much better for general chores, and it can pull a 2-bottom plow okay.
Price wise, the M sounds like it might be way overpriced.
HOWEVER, the M is not a great utility tractor. 404 would be much better for general chores, and it can pull a 2-bottom plow okay.
Price wise, the M sounds like it might be way overpriced.
Like before, if the 404 has "factory" power steering, the one with the two cylinders on the steering arm under the front bolster, go for it. If it has a torque generator instead of the factory cylinder type, you could have front end problems with the weak bolster internals and the steering arm. What kind of loader does it have? The Wagner-IH 120 loader is a "pipe frame" and although it's fairly heavy for a pipe loader, there are better more modern ones out there.
If everything is good mechanically on the 404, it will be better for your purposes.
BTW, I don't believe the 404 has live pto... it's basically the last in the series of C-CS-200-230-240 and none of them had live power, but do have live hydraulics.
If everything is good mechanically on the 404, it will be better for your purposes.
BTW, I don't believe the 404 has live pto... it's basically the last in the series of C-CS-200-230-240 and none of them had live power, but do have live hydraulics.
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