Needing rear wheel weights 101 lesson

Where I grew up I only ever saw H"s and M"s with rear rims that were dished out and had one set of rear wheel weights with the flat side exposed.

I currently have my H"s rear wheels dished in for trailering and for plowing with a 3pt plow.

I picked up a set of cast iron weights and have started wire brushing them. I see the 4 holes to bolt them onto the cast iron centers, but what are the other recessed holes that look like they might fit a square head bolt? What are the U-shaped notches on the outer edge of the weights for? With my wheels dished in would I mount the weights flat side out or rounded side out?
 
The extra slots and square holes are for adding extra sets of weights to each other.I run 3 sets on my 766 and my M.
You can mount your weights rounded side in or out.They'll bolt on both ways. Its just a cosmetic thing. Farmall's look dumb with the hubs on inside out, so how you add the weights won't matter. LOL Kent
 
Well, they may look dumb, but that is the only way you can get the tires in enough for some applications.
I have 2 450D tractors and I have the wheels on one turned in so I can get it on a trailer.
 
The big U-shaped notches are hand-holds for lifting the heavy weights on to the tractor. They can also be used to hang the weight on a forklift, then you drive the forklift up to the tractor and slide the weight into place.

The square recesses are for square headed bolts, so one person can tighten the bolts that hold the weights on to the tractor. They are supposed to be facing out away from the wheel hub.

IH designed the system for two sets of weights to be installed. One through the four holes in the center of the weight, and a second using the holes and slots around the outer edge.

If you want to install more than two sets, use all-thread through the four center holes. You make up four all-thread "studs" that are nutted in place on the wheel hub, then slide as many weights on as you want, then add the outer nut.
 
Mr.kennel,my Ms,Hs,etc all have the wheels ALL dished 'in'.They have to be that way in order to fit down a 30" corn row.I dont haul em around to shows,I use em!In the 'old days when they ran 36 or 38" rows,the wheels needed to dished 'out' to run down the row.Wheel spacing was/is determined by the job that the tractor was required to do,not by how it looked!
 
I also prefer the look of the dished out wheel, but need them dished in for 3pt plowing.

A guy in my tractor clin dishes all his Farmalls in because he said that is how they came from the factory, he"s got pictures of them loaded on trains in chicago.

In the attached picture the wheels are dished in and spread about 3 inches out on the axle from mine.
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Yes, they were shipped from the factory with the wheels dished in, but ONLY because more of them could be fitted onto a rail car. Dished in, dished out, Neither way is right or wrong. The use of the tractor and personal preferance is the sole deciding factor.
 
Why is there a NEED to take offense when someone says they don't like the way a tractor looks with the wheels in a particular position?
 
Well DeltaRed is right in or out just depends on the purpose it is used for. Ours are dish in for 30" rows too. They load and haul better and easier that way too.
 
funny, my 450 has the wheels dished out and it fits perfectly fine on a car trailer. runs right down the rows too. Our H has the wheels dished out and same thing on that
 
(quoted from post at 20:00:34 03/21/12) funny, my 450 has the wheels dished out and it fits perfectly fine on a car trailer. runs right down the rows too. Our H has the wheels dished out and same thing on that

First, I think you mean dished in (out is the ugly way :lol: ) Second a 450 will fit on a car trailer dished in because they are double bevel rims. Hs should fit on a car trailer with the wheels dished in and pushed in but I haven't tried it.
 
Take the wheel center by itself. It is shaped like a cereal bowl.

Dished out means with the top of the bowl facing out.

Dished in means with the bottom of the bowl facing out.
 

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